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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	mcanal@igalia.com, "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <sima@ffwll.ch>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 03/33] rust: drm/kms: Introduce the main ModeConfigObject traits
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:44:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250314-friendly-hilarious-axolotl-ccf19e@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250305230406.567126-4-lyude@redhat.com>

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On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 05:59:19PM -0500, Lyude Paul wrote:
> The KMS API has a very consistent idea of a "mode config object", which
> includes any object with a drm_mode_object struct embedded in it. These
> objects have their own object IDs which DRM exposes to userspace, and we
> introduce the ModeConfigObject trait to represent any object matching these
> characteristics.
> 
> One slightly less consistent trait of these objects however: some mode
> objects have a reference count, while others don't. Since rust requires
> that we are able to define the lifetime of an object up-front, we introduce
> two other super-traits of ModeConfigObject for this:

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that, sorry. Would you have a
small example of the challenge that forced you to split it into two
separate traits?

> * StaticModeObject - this trait represents any mode object which does not
>   have a reference count of its own. Such objects can be considered to
>   share the lifetime of their parent KMS device

I think that part is true for both cases. I'm not aware of any
reference-counted object that might outlive the DRM device. Do you have
an example?

> * RcModeObject - this trait represents any mode object which does have its
>   own reference count. Objects implementing this trait get a free blanket
>   implementation of AlwaysRefCounted, and as such can be used with the ARef
>   container without us having to implement AlwaysRefCounted for each
>   individual mode object.
> 
> This will be able to handle most lifetimes we'll need with one exception:
> it's entirely possible a driver may want to hold a "owned" reference to a
> static mode object.

I guess it kind of derives from the conversation above, but would you
have an example of a driver wanting to have a reference to a mode object
that isn't on the same lifetime than the DRM device?

Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-14 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-05 22:59 [RFC v3 00/33] Rust bindings for KMS + RVKMS Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 01/33] rust: drm: Add a small handful of fourcc bindings Lyude Paul
2025-03-07 16:32   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-05-12 11:49   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-13  7:11   ` Louis Chauvet
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 02/33] rust: drm: Add traits for registering KMS devices Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 10:05   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-21 22:00     ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-04 19:39   ` Louis Chauvet
2025-05-12 12:50   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 03/33] rust: drm/kms: Introduce the main ModeConfigObject traits Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 10:44   ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2025-03-21 23:23     ` Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 04/33] rust: drm/kms: Add drm_connector bindings Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 11:02   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-21 23:35     ` Lyude Paul
2025-05-12 14:39   ` Louis Chauvet
2025-05-12 16:15   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 05/33] rust: drm/kms: Add drm_plane bindings Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 11:37   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-21 23:38     ` Lyude Paul
2025-05-12 16:29   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 06/33] rust: drm/kms: Add drm_crtc bindings Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 07/33] rust: drm/kms: Add drm_encoder bindings Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 11:48   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-21 23:42     ` Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 08/33] rust: drm/kms: Add UnregisteredConnector::attach_encoder() Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 09/33] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverConnector::get_mode callback Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 11:57   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-21 23:47     ` Lyude Paul
2025-05-12 19:39   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 10/33] rust: drm/kms: Add ConnectorGuard::add_modes_noedid() Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 12:02   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-21 23:50     ` Lyude Paul
2025-03-21 23:52       ` Lyude Paul
2025-03-22  3:31         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-03-25  9:43         ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 11/33] rust: drm/kms: Add ConnectorGuard::set_preferred_mode Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 12/33] rust: drm/kms: Add RawConnector and RawConnectorState Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 12:04   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-25 21:55     ` Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 13/33] rust: drm/kms: Add RawPlane and RawPlaneState Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 14/33] rust: drm/kms: Add OpaqueConnector and OpaqueConnectorState Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 12:08   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-25 22:20     ` Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 15/33] rust: drm/kms: Add OpaqueCrtc and OpaqueCrtcState Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 16/33] rust: drm/kms: Add OpaquePlane and OpaquePlaneState Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 17/33] rust: drm/kms: Add OpaqueEncoder Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 18/33] rust: drm/kms: Add drm_atomic_state bindings Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 12:18   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 19/33] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverCrtc::atomic_check() Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 12:21   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-26 21:18     ` Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 20/33] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverPlane::atomic_update() Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 21/33] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverPlane::atomic_check() Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 12:22   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 22/33] rust: drm/kms: Add RawCrtcState::active() Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 23/33] rust: drm/kms: Add RawPlaneState::crtc() Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 24/33] rust: drm/kms: Add RawPlaneState::atomic_helper_check() Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 25/33] rust: drm/kms: Add drm_framebuffer bindings Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 26/33] rust: drm/kms: Add RawPlane::framebuffer() Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 27/33] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverCrtc::atomic_begin() and atomic_flush() Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 12:25   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 28/33] rust: drm/kms: Add DriverCrtc::atomic_enable() and atomic_disable() Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 29/33] rust: drm: Add Device::event_lock() Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 30/33] rust: drm/kms: Add Device::num_crtcs() Lyude Paul
2025-03-07 17:38   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 31/33] rust: drm/kms: Add VblankSupport Lyude Paul
2025-03-14 12:37   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 32/33] rust: drm/kms: Add Kms::atomic_commit_tail Lyude Paul
2025-03-05 22:59 ` [RFC v3 33/33] drm: Introduce RVKMS! Lyude Paul

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