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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: "Abdiel Janulgue" <abdiel.janulgue@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, daniel.almeida@collabora.com,
	robin.murphy@arm.com, aliceryhl@google.com,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Valentin Obst" <kernel@valentinobst.de>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	airlied@redhat.com,
	"open list:DMA MAPPING HELPERS" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/7] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 15:29:01 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250321182901.GQ126678@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z92jPXvMOqhgv04k@pollux>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 06:34:53PM +0100, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 02:23:53PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 01:06:19PM +0200, Abdiel Janulgue wrote:
> > 
> > > +        // SAFETY: Device pointer is guaranteed as valid by the type invariant on `Device`.
> > > +        let ret = unsafe {
> > > +            bindings::dma_alloc_attrs(
> > > +                dev.as_raw(),
> > > +                size,
> > > +                &mut dma_handle,
> > > +                gfp_flags.as_raw(),
> > > +                dma_attrs.as_raw(),
> > > +            )
> > 
> > This is not the correct safety statement, the device must have a driver
> > bound to call this function, a struct device reference is not
> > sufficient.
> > 
> > I belive Danilo was suggesting to ignore this unsafety for now, but if
> > so it should be documented correctly.
> 
> If just landed patches [1], which are the foundation of addressing this issue.

Those patches say:

 The context types can be extended as required, e.g. to limit availability  of
 certain (bus) device functions to probe().

Which is not an appropriate limitation for dma_alloc_coherent, we
expect it to be called outside probe in real drivers. Is there more to
that story?

Regardless, the safety comment should not be merged with incorrect
information. :\

> > Also think the use of devres here is going to be very problematic for
> > drivers to use as I said in other emails. :(
> 
> In an earlier reply today in a different thread already gave you the link [2] of
> what we landed, which, besides explaining the situation, also makes clear that
> there is *no* Devres wrapper around a CoherentAllocation and why.

Yes, I see, I have so much email right now it is hard find all the
different versions of everything.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-21 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-07 11:06 [PATCH v13 0/7] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-07 11:06 ` [PATCH v13 1/7] rust: error: Add EOVERFLOW Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-07 11:06 ` [PATCH v13 2/7] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-07 11:17   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-07 20:40   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-21 17:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-21 17:34     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-21 18:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-03-21 19:16         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-07 11:06 ` [PATCH v13 3/7] rust: pci: impl AsMut<Device> for pci::Device Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-07 11:18   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-07 11:45     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-03-07 14:18   ` Greg KH
2025-03-07 17:53     ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-07 11:06 ` [PATCH v13 4/7] rust: device: add dma addressing capabilities Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-07 20:12   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-11 17:45     ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-11 18:35       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-11 20:16         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-07 11:06 ` [PATCH v13 5/7] samples: rust: add Rust dma test sample driver Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-07 11:06 ` [PATCH v13 6/7] MAINTAINERS: add entry for Rust dma mapping helpers device driver API Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-07 11:06 ` [PATCH v13 7/7] rust: dma: add as_slice/write functions for CoherentAllocation Abdiel Janulgue
2025-03-07 11:12 ` [PATCH v13 0/7] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction Danilo Krummrich

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