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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] uaccess: rust: use newtype for user pointers
Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 23:12:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250527221211.GB2023217@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250527-userptr-newtype-v2-1-a789d266f6b0@google.com>

On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 01:53:12PM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> In C code we use sparse with the __user annotation to detect cases where
> a user pointer is mixed up with other things. To replicate that, we
> introduce a new struct UserPtr that serves the same purpose using the
> newtype pattern.
> 
> The UserPtr type is not marked with #[derive(Debug)], which means that
> it's not possible to print values of this type. This avoids ASLR
> leakage.
> 
> The type is added to the prelude as it is a fairly fundamental type
> similar to c_int. The wrapping_add() method is renamed to
> wrapping_byte_add() for consistency with the method name found on raw
> pointers.

That's considerably weaker than __user, though - with
	struct foo {struct bar x; struct baz y[2]; };
	struct foo __user *p;
	void f(struct bar __user *);
sparse does figure out that f(&p->y[1]) is a type error - &p->y[1] is
struct baz __user * and f() expects struct bar __user *.

It's not just mixing userland pointers with other things - it's not mixing
userland pointers to different types, etc.

In practice I've seen quite a few brainos caught by that...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-27 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-27 13:53 [PATCH v2] uaccess: rust: use newtype for user pointers Alice Ryhl
2025-05-27 14:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-27 15:20 ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-27 15:22   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-27 19:03 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-27 19:09   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-27 22:12 ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-05-27 23:13   ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-28 10:48     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-28 15:38     ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-28 16:02       ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-28 10:47   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-28 17:45     ` Al Viro
2025-05-28 20:01       ` Al Viro
2025-05-28 20:35       ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-28 10:52 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-28 16:55 ` Benno Lossin

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