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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Timur Tabi <timur@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: add basic ELF sections parser
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2025 09:48:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025060126-various-greasily-61df@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOZdJXU1ftLfem40v82NJp3S0WqZoMbqYrqQMw4vZEUbpa6Uag@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 31, 2025 at 09:38:24AM -0500, Timur Tabi wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2025 at 7:25 AM Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > What exactly do you mean by this?  That is what I have been asking, what
> > is the specific reason why this can't be done in userspace?  What
> > hardware "thing" can't be read by userspace, and why not?  Userspace has
> > access to PCI devices directly, surely there is nothing "secret" here.
> 
> Why in the world would you want user space to read hardware registers,
> when the driver is already doing it???????
> 
> And please note that the driver has to read and parse a lot of other
> register in order to know which register contains the fuse settings,
> and even whether that register exists, and at what address.  The fuse
> register is hardware-specific.  It doesn't exist on Turing, it does
> exist on Ampere and Ada (but just GA10x, not GA100), and it's not used
> on Hopper and Blackwell.  You want to duplicate all this code in
> user-space (assuming that registers really are accessible in user
> space), just avoid a 12-line function that already exists and works in
> Nouveau?????????

Because you are not proposing a 12 line function here, you all were
attempting to add an elf parser to the core kernel that everyone would
always load into their memory space.

> Please make it make sense, Greg.

Please read my thread where I asked for detailed specifics as to exactly
what is required here for you all to determine what is needed to load
the firmware.

have a good weekend,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-01  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15  6:03 [PATCH] rust: add basic ELF sections parser Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-15  7:38 ` Greg KH
2025-05-15  8:32   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-15 11:25     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-15 11:42       ` Greg KH
2025-05-15 13:09         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-15 14:30         ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-15 19:17           ` John Hubbard
2025-05-16 13:15             ` Greg KH
2025-05-16 13:26               ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-16 13:32                 ` Greg KH
2025-05-16 13:35                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-16 14:35                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-16 16:01                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-16 19:00                       ` John Hubbard
2025-05-17 10:13                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-17 13:41                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-16 16:28                     ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-17  0:51                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-29  6:53                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-29  8:01                           ` Greg KH
2025-05-30  0:58                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30  6:21                               ` Greg KH
2025-05-30  6:56                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30  9:00                                   ` Greg KH
2025-05-30  6:22                               ` Greg KH
2025-05-30  6:59                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30  9:01                                   ` Greg KH
2025-05-30 14:34                                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-30 15:42                                       ` Greg KH
2025-05-30 18:10                                         ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-31  5:45                                           ` Greg KH
2025-05-31 10:17                                             ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-31 12:25                                               ` Greg KH
2025-05-31 14:38                                                 ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-31 15:28                                                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-01  7:48                                                   ` Greg KH [this message]
2025-05-31 12:33                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-31 13:30                                               ` Greg KH
2025-06-01 12:23                                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-13  3:32                                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-24 14:26                                                   ` Greg KH
2025-06-24 14:51                                                     ` Danilo Krummrich

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