From: "Onur Özkan" <work@onurozkan.dev>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Cc: ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
gary@garyguo.net, lossin@kernel.org, a.hindborg@kernel.org,
aliceryhl@google.com, tmgross@umich.edu, dakr@kernel.org,
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bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, Lyude <thatslyude@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 16:53:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250724165351.509cff53@nimda.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250621184454.8354-1-work@onurozkan.dev>
Hi again,
Just finished going over the C-side use of `ww_mutex` today and I
wanted to share some notes and thoughts based on that.
To get the full context, you might want to take a look at this thread
[1].
- The first note I took is that we shouldn't allow locking without
`WwAcquireCtx` (which is currently possible in v5). As explained in
ww_mutex documentation [2], this basically turns it into a regular
mutex and you don't get benefits of `ww_mutex`.
From what I have seen on the C side, there is no real use-case for
this. It doesn't make much sense to use `ww_mutex` just for
single-locking scenarios. Unless a specific use-case comes up, I think
we shouldn't support using it that way. I am planning to move the
`lock*` functions under `impl WwAcquireCtx` (as we discussed in [1]),
which will make `WwAcquireCtx` required by design and also simplify
the implementation a lot.
- The second note is about how EDEADLK is handled. On the C side, it
looks like some code paths may not release all the previously locked
mutexes or have a special/custom logic when locking returns EDEADLK
(see [3]). So, handling EDEADLK automatically (pointed
in [1]) can be quite useful for most cases, but that could also be a
limitation in certain scenarios.
I was thinking we could provide an alternative version of each `lock*`
function that accepts a closure which is called on the EDEADLK error.
This way, we can support both auto-release locks and custom logic for
handling EDEADLK scenarios.
Something like this (just a dummy code for demonstration):
ctx.lock_and_handle_edeadlk(|active_locks| {
// user-defined handling here
});
That would let users handle the situation however they want if they
need to.
Would love to hear your thoughts or suggestions on any of this.
[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/DATYHYJVPL3L.3NLMH7PPHYU9@kernel.org/#t
[2]:
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/locking/ww-mutex-design.txt
[3]:
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/25fae0b93d1d7/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_modeset_lock.c#L326-L329
Regards,
Onur
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-24 14:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-21 18:44 [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support Onur Özkan
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] rust: add C wrappers for `ww_mutex` inline functions Onur Özkan
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] implement ww_mutex abstraction for the Rust tree Onur Özkan
2025-06-22 9:18 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 13:04 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 13:44 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 14:47 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 15:14 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 17:11 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 23:22 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 5:34 ` Onur
2025-06-24 8:20 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 12:31 ` Onur
2025-06-24 12:48 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-07 13:39 ` Onur
2025-07-07 15:31 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-07 18:06 ` Onur
2025-07-07 19:48 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-08 14:21 ` Onur
2025-08-01 21:22 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 10:42 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-02 13:41 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-02 14:15 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 20:58 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-05 15:18 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-05 9:08 ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-05 12:41 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-05 13:50 ` Onur Özkan
2025-06-23 11:51 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-23 13:26 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 18:17 ` Onur
2025-06-23 21:54 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] add KUnit coverage on Rust `ww_mutex` implementation Onur Özkan
2025-06-22 9:16 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support Benno Lossin
2025-07-24 13:53 ` Onur Özkan [this message]
2025-07-29 17:15 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-30 10:24 ` Onur Özkan
2025-07-30 10:55 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-05 16:22 ` Lyude Paul
2025-08-05 17:56 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06 5:57 ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-06 17:37 ` Lyude Paul
2025-08-06 19:30 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-14 11:13 ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-14 12:38 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-14 15:56 ` Onur
2025-08-14 18:22 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-18 12:56 ` Onur Özkan
2025-09-01 10:05 ` Onur Özkan
2025-09-01 12:28 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-02 16:53 ` Onur
2025-09-03 6:24 ` Onur
2025-09-03 13:04 ` Daniel Almeida
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