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From: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Thomas Weißschuh" <thomas.weissschuh@linutronix.de>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas.schier@linux.dev>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] kbuild: enable CONFIG_WERROR for more build steps
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 13:56:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250812205604.GA532342@ax162> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72=rhY_k1RRJoTzsY8PnEW5D=m2Org9m0v3erJsWxW4HkQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 12:50:44PM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 12:25 PM Thomas Weißschuh
> > Another possibility would be to use -Werror
> > for hostprogs unconditionally. Various tools/ are doing that for example.
> 
> Not sure what Kbuild thinks about that -- we have a small risk of
> breaking things with newer compilers, but that may be not too bad for
> just hostprogs (unlike when it was attempted to make it default `y`).
...
> appear -- so that should be fine, but it does make it way more urgent
> if they are errors every time, though, since it blocks other testing
> too).

Yeah I am conflicted. On the one hand, KBUILD_HOSTCFLAGS only has -Wall
and a couple of extra warnings so the risk of new warnings breaking the
build is pretty low. You can see the rate at which warnings get added or
removed from -Wall in clang in the warning-wall.c test:

  https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/commits/main/clang/test/Misc/warning-wall.c

I'm obviously on top of testing upstream LLVM against hostprogs because
LLVM= makes it easy to set HOSTCC. I suspect that GCC trunk sees less
testing against the hostprogs unless the user has it in their PATH
somehow.

On the other hand, the recent changes to -Wuninitialized and the
addition of -Wuninitialized-const-pointer were extremely disruptive only
because of -Werror... I would have no problems with fast tracking fixes
for hostprogs -Werror usage but I am not sure all maintainers will. This
would also impact vendored host programs like dtc, which may be harder
to update.

We could try it for a development cycle in -next to see if anything gets
noticed. Always easy to back out retrospectively as well. Alternatively,
we could just recommend people use HOSTCFLAGS=-Werror if they desire it.

Cheers,
Nathan

      reply	other threads:[~2025-08-12 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-12  5:31 [PATCH 0/2] kbuild: enable CONFIG_WERROR for more build steps Thomas Weißschuh
2025-08-12  5:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] kbuild: move existing CONFIG_WERROR flags into dedicated Makefile Thomas Weißschuh
2025-08-12  5:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] kbuild: enable CONFIG_WERROR for more build steps Thomas Weißschuh
2025-08-12  9:21 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-12 10:25   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-08-12 10:50     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-12 20:56       ` Nathan Chancellor [this message]

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