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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	patches@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] rust: error: replace `WARN_ON_ONCE` comment with `debug_assert!`
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2025 08:28:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025083032-barmaid-rising-a977@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72k7_GbFwRxW5vikF_SpiNcNm7Ff0oe6jyYX_voDg92QFA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 09:43:24PM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 9:23 PM Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thus, instead, use a debug assertion -- this assumes hitting one of them
> > is not going to be considered a CVE (which requires
> > `CONFIG_RUST_DEBUG_ASSERTIONS=y`).
> 
> Greg: RFC on this -- this is the usual conundrum around `WARN`. I
> would like to have an assertion or `WARN`-like entity for developers
> that doesn't imply CVEs when hit by user interactions. More generally,
> to know that such a config option is OK as long as it is labeled
> clearly a debug one like this one (we can document the CVE bit
> explicitly if needed).

I do not understand, if there is ANY way that a user can trigger a
WARN() call, then that is considered a "vulnerability" as far as CVE is
concerned and so I need to issue one when it is fixed.  This is entirely
because the panic-on-warn option could have also been enabled.

If you wish to state that CONFIG_RUST_DEBUG_ASSERTIONS=y should NEVER be
used in ANY shipping Linux system, then yes, we can carve out an
exception for this (we do that if lockdep is enabled as that should
never be in a running system, only a development one).  But I thought
that some groups wanted to have that option enabled in their running
systems to provide additional security overall?

And yes, the fact that enabling an option for safety can actually cause
a CVE to be issued is not lost on me as being very odd :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-30  6:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-29 19:22 [PATCH 0/3] Error improvements Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-29 19:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] rust: error: improve `Error::from_errno` documentation Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-30 12:17   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-30 13:00     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-30 13:31       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-01  9:11   ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-29 19:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] rust: error: improve `to_result` documentation Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-30 12:18   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-01  9:10   ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-29 19:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] rust: error: replace `WARN_ON_ONCE` comment with `debug_assert!` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-29 19:43   ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-30  6:28     ` Greg KH [this message]
2025-08-30 11:07       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-09-03  9:45         ` Greg KH
2025-09-03 10:03           ` Miguel Ojeda

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