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From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	acourbot@nvidia.com, "Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: print: Fix issue with rust_build_error
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 15:01:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250922190127.GA2462108@joelbox2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72kDkAtYQ6fBb4gPEJqsS10qmXRRZj34gDWqjAQEvmXVPw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 11:13:11AM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 2:45 AM Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >
> > But even if the pointer is a C const pointer, LLVM seems to
> > always want to reload it.
> 
> What do you mean by this? I think I mentioned in the other thread that
> a C pointer to const still allows the callee to change the value.

Apologies, indeed a const pointer in C does not mean the pointee cannot be
modified.

I think I somewhat understand the issue but still not fully. MIR optimization
is supposed to optimize away the dead code in build_assert. This is what I
see for "good" cases when things work.

But the information that the data being printed is an immutable reference, is
lost somehow during MIR optimization phase when a printk is involved.  Per the
github issue [1], there is likely some provenance information in the immutable
reference to the data, that gets lost during "MIR inlining" optimization. In
other words, this is not an LLVM problem as I was pointing out, but an MIR
optimization problem.  Benno/Gary correct me anything I said is wrong.

I guess I still have a few more questions:

1. What is being inlined when we talk about MIR inlining? The print
statement? Constructor to the Argument object? Something else?

2. What does 'noalias' mean in the github report [1], and why would that effect
'MIR inlining'?

3. Why does LLVM inlining still succeed when MIR inlining is disabled? This
has something to do with a new llvm feature Niki referred to in the report.

thanks,

 - Joel
[1] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/146844


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-22 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-20 16:19 [PATCH] rust: print: Fix issue with rust_build_error Joel Fernandes
2025-09-20 19:34 ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-21  0:53   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-09-20 20:09 ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-21  0:45   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-09-21  7:12     ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-21  9:03       ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-22 10:29       ` Gary Guo
2025-09-22 11:25         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-09-21  9:13     ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-09-22 19:01       ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2025-09-21 10:46 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-09-22 19:15   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-09-21 20:56 ` kernel test robot

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