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From: FUJITA Tomonori <tomo@flapping.org>
To: gary@garyguo.net, markus.probst@posteo.de
Cc: tomo@flapping.org, aliceryhl@google.com, dakr@kernel.org,
	ojeda@kernel.org, a.hindborg@kernel.org, acourbot@nvidia.com,
	bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, boqun@kernel.org,
	daniel.almeida@collabora.com, lossin@kernel.org,
	tamird@kernel.org, tmgross@umich.edu, work@onurozkan.dev,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	fujita.tomonori@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] rust: serdev: use Delta<Jiffy> for timeouts
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2026 10:28:16 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261001.102816.848418815165006267.tomo@flapping.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DLT305M0I5L5.19LZT0V02L1NR@garyguo.net>

On Thu, 01 Oct 2026 01:39:51 +0100
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> wrote:

> On Thu Oct 1, 2026 at 1:29 AM BST, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2026 14:52:50 +0100
>> "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the API should ideally use `Option<Delta<Jiffies>>` for this case, and
>>> use `None` to represent indefinite wait.
>>
>> For read_poll_timeout(), where a timeout of 0 means "never time out"
>> in C, we did not take Option for the timeout. Alice's comment [1]:
>>
>> | Another thing is the `timeout_delta` option. I would just have
>> | written it as two methods, one that takes a timeout and one that
>> | doesn't. That way, callers that don't need a timeout do not need to
>> | handle timeout errors. (Do we have any users without a timeout? If
>> | not, maybe just remove the Option.)
>>
>> serdev is in the same situation. Do we want an API that uses None for
>> "never" here?
> 
> I don't like the "using 0" to mean forever, because 0 has a more sensible
> meaning -- which is just do a poll and don't wait.

Fully agreed.

> This one doesn't even return a result at all, so `Option` sounds reasonable.

That's true for wait_until_sent(), but write_all() returns a result
and it can be ETIMEDOUT.

> Alternatively, just use `MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT` (i.e.
> `Delta::from_jiffies(isize::MAX)`). We can perhaps add a `Delta::MAX` for this.

I don't think Delta::<Jiffy>::MAX is a good idea. Whether the maximum
value means an indefinite wait depends on the function. For example,
it doesn't for Queue::enqueue_delayed().

Another option is to take Delta<Jiffy> and round 0 up to 1 jiffy. A
driver that needs an indefinite wait passes
Delta::from_jiffies(MAX_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT) explicitly.

Markus, what do you think?


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-01  1:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-30  4:13 [PATCH v1] rust: serdev: use Delta<Jiffy> for timeouts FUJITA Tomonori
2026-09-30 12:59 ` Markus Probst
2026-09-30 13:52   ` Gary Guo
2026-09-30 14:07     ` Markus Probst
2026-10-01  0:29     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2026-10-01  0:39       ` Gary Guo
2026-10-01  1:28         ` FUJITA Tomonori [this message]
2026-10-01  2:27           ` Gary Guo
2026-10-01  4:26             ` FUJITA Tomonori

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