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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Matt Gilbride" <mattgilbride@google.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	"Todd Kjos" <tkjos@android.com>,
	"Martijn Coenen" <maco@android.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Carlos Llamas" <cmllamas@google.com>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Rob Landley" <rob@landley.net>,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Michel Lespinasse" <michel@lespinasse.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 5/6] rust: rbtree: add `RBTreeCursor`
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 09:27:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a1b6a7a-9d0c-4089-bc14-0fe629a56d3e@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLgjiqOcu0JVgLze76LQDUD3KTQv9WrBy-GkMbCgVWn0xzA@mail.gmail.com>

On 06.08.24 11:04, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 11:01 AM Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
>>
>> On 06.08.24 10:24, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 9:35 PM Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
>>>> On 27.07.24 22:30, Matt Gilbride wrote:
>>>>> +    tree: &'a mut RBTree<K, V>,
>>>>> +    current: NonNull<bindings::rb_node>,
>>>>> +}
>>>>> +
>>>>> +// SAFETY: The [`RBTreeCursor`] gives out immutable references to K and mutable references to V,
>>>>> +// so it has the same thread safety requirements as mutable references.
>>>>> +unsafe impl<'a, K: Send, V: Send> Send for RBTreeCursor<'a, K, V> {}
>>>>
>>>> Again, do we want to use `K: Sync` here instead?
>>>
>>> In this case, `K: Send` and `K: Sync` are both sufficient conditions,
>>> but `K: Send` will generally be less restrictive for the user.
>>
>> What if `K = struct(RefCell<i32>, i32)` where only the second i32 is
>> used in `(Partial)Ord`? Then you can send `RBTreeCursor` to another
>> thread and call `borrow` there, even though `K: !Sync` (and the value
>> still lives on another thread).
> 
> In that scenario, all immutable references to the key would be on the
> same thread as the cursor. The cursor borrows the tree mutably, so
> there can only be one cursor.
> 
> When using `K: Send`, it's basically like having `RBTreeCursor` store
> mutable references to the key, but with an API that downgrades to
> immutable reference when giving out access to the key.

Ah that's true.

---
Cheers,
Benno


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-06  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-27 20:30 [PATCH v8 0/6] Red-black tree abstraction needed by Rust Binder Matt Gilbride
2024-07-27 20:30 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] rust: kernel: add `drop_contents` to `BoxExt` Matt Gilbride
2024-08-01  9:00   ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-01  9:02     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-07-27 20:30 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] rust: rbtree: add red-black tree implementation backed by the C version Matt Gilbride
2024-07-30 21:54   ` Boqun Feng
2024-07-30 21:56   ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-05 19:02   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06  8:41     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-06  8:51       ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-27 20:30 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] rust: rbtree: add iterator Matt Gilbride
2024-08-05 19:08   ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-27 20:30 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] rust: rbtree: add mutable iterator Matt Gilbride
2024-08-05 19:22   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06  8:30     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-06  9:23       ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-27 20:30 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] rust: rbtree: add `RBTreeCursor` Matt Gilbride
2024-08-05 19:35   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06  8:24     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-06  9:01       ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06  9:04         ` Alice Ryhl
2024-08-06  9:27           ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2024-07-27 20:30 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] rust: rbtree: add `RBTree::entry` Matt Gilbride
2024-08-05 20:02   ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-06  8:39     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-07-30 21:57 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] Red-black tree abstraction needed by Rust Binder Boqun Feng

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