From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: phasta@kernel.org, "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
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"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
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"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
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"open list:DMA MAPPING HELPERS" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 20:22:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d5a6640-2f14-4d80-bc5e-4d8274251793@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b9b75d1-eb8e-494a-b05f-59f75c92e6ae@marcan.st>
On 2/3/25 19:46, Hector Martin wrote:
> Adding Linus
>
> My 2c: If Linus doesn't pipe up with an authoritative answer to this
> thread, Miguel and the other Rust folks should just merge this series
> once it is reviewed and ready, ignoring Christoph's overt attempt at
> sabotaging the project.
Hold your horses... I agree that they should just merge the series in
the unlikely event that Linus doesn't chime in over the next two months,
but I would very strongly suggest that it's sent to Linus (assuming he
doesn't jump in now) as a separate pull request.
This is almost always a good thing to do when you have commits that
merit specific attention (example:
https://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2109.2/10311.html).
My 2 cents as someone that is certainly not any kind of VIP, but has
been in MAINTAINERS for quite a while.
> Rust folks: Please don't waste your time and mental cycles on drama like
> this. It's not worth your time. Either Linus likes it, or he doesn't.
> Everything else is distractions orchestrated by a subset of saboteur
> maintainers who are trying to demoralize you until you give up, because
> they know they're going to be on the losing side of history sooner or
> later. No amount of sabotage from old entrenched maintainers is going to
> stop the world from moving forward towards memory-safe languages.
I have a question, which is unrelated to my opinion of Rust for Linux:
in what way do you think this tirade is actually helping?
> FWIW, in my opinion, the "cancer" comment from Christoph would be enough
> to qualify for Code-of-Conduct action, but I doubt anything of the sort
> will happen.
FWIW I agree that it was borderline and probably on the wrong side of
the edge. But I am happy for one that Christoph has since expanded
beyond the "cancer" comment, because that's at least a technical
argument, unlike yours above.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-03 19:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-08 12:27 [PATCH v8 0/2] Add dma coherent allocator abstraction Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-08 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 1/2] rust: error: Add EOVERFLOW Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-08 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-08 13:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-08 15:16 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-08 15:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-08 15:21 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-09 8:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09 8:49 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-10 8:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-10 10:41 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-16 13:17 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-16 13:57 ` Robin Murphy
2025-01-16 15:57 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-17 13:56 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-17 19:10 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-28 10:14 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-28 9:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-29 21:33 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-01-31 7:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-03 8:17 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-02-04 5:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-30 13:19 ` Philipp Stanner
2025-01-30 13:35 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-30 13:43 ` Philipp Stanner
2025-01-30 15:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-30 16:11 ` Greg KH
2025-01-30 17:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-31 7:47 ` Greg KH
2025-01-31 13:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-03 18:46 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-03 19:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-03 23:41 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-03 19:22 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2025-02-03 23:05 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-05 18:52 ` On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.) Simona Vetter
2025-02-05 20:36 ` Dave Airlie
2025-02-06 9:19 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-06 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-07 12:16 ` Dr. Greg
2025-02-08 4:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-08 4:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-08 8:31 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-10 9:41 ` Icenowy Zheng
2025-02-10 10:24 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-13 3:49 ` Icenowy Zheng
2025-02-13 6:41 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-02-13 9:50 ` Icenowy Zheng
2025-02-13 11:34 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-08 20:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-02-09 0:47 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-09 3:42 ` comex
2025-02-13 10:20 ` David Airlie
2025-02-20 16:24 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-20 16:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-20 16:52 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-13 19:52 ` Ronja Meyer
2025-02-13 19:22 ` 33KK
2025-02-06 19:37 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-06 20:16 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 17:14 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-02-07 18:02 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 18:16 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-02-09 8:25 ` Neal Gompa
2025-02-10 17:28 ` Mark Brown
2025-02-14 7:10 ` Neal Gompa
2025-02-14 19:49 ` Al Viro
2025-02-19 15:03 ` Mark Brown
2025-02-07 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-07 19:18 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 18:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-02-07 9:41 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 10:20 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-07 10:51 ` Greg KH
2025-02-07 13:49 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-07 14:54 ` Hector Martin
2025-02-10 7:52 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-08 23:55 ` [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction Carlos Bilbao
2025-02-09 6:44 ` David Airlie
2025-02-09 16:19 ` Carlos Bilbao
2025-02-09 16:28 ` Carlos Bilbao
2025-01-08 18:08 ` Daniel Sedlak
2025-01-08 19:09 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-01-09 11:14 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-09 11:19 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-09 11:32 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-10 8:07 ` Abdiel Janulgue
2025-01-12 0:41 ` kernel test robot
2025-02-04 16:54 ` Thomas Hampton
2025-02-05 2:41 ` Thomas Hampton
2025-02-10 8:54 ` [PATCH v8 0/2] Add " Pyrex
2025-02-10 9:09 ` Danilo Krummrich
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