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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>, "Edwin Peer" <epeer@nvidia.com>,
	"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	"Steven Price" <steven.price@arm.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 05/10] rust: io: add IoLoc and IoWrite types
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 11:19:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e281d9c-20e0-47e1-8635-e062f18d47ff@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DGU88IHVRYHD.9WP9Z40UAN37@garyguo.net>

On 3/4/26 10:58 AM, Gary Guo wrote:
...
>> I see no reason why register values for different locations have to be distinct
>> in terms of value types.
>>
>> Even Nova today has quite a few registers that are just bitfields of a single
>> field that spans all bits. I think many simple driver would probably want to
>> just operate on primitives for these.
> 
> I shall add that I think the fact that the registers that are *not* fields still
> gain their dedicated type in Nova driver is due to the limitation of the initial
> `register!` API design that *requires* unique types due to the `value.op(io)`
> design as opposed to `io.op(value)`.
> 
> I think even these ones should eventually be replaced by just primitives
> eventually. I see no benefit of
> 
>     bar.write(REG.init(|x| x.with_value(value)))
> 
> as opposed to just
> 
>     bar.write(REG, value)

All other things being equal, the second form is clearly preferable, yes.

> 
> Best,
> Gary
> 
>>
>> Another example is that if there're multiple registers where fields have the
>> same meaning (e.g. a device address), then a user might want to just have the
>> same type for all these values. We've already have an example of register arrays
>> that share types, and I see no reason to forbid non-array registers from also
>> sharing types.
>>
>> Forcing all registers to have different types is a design direction that I don't
>> want to take.

I also want to register (haha) a strong yet unexplainable concern about
this. Registers as types is something I've never seen attempted, it feels
strange and unnecessary, and just worries me.

thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-04 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-24 14:21 [PATCH v7 00/10] rust: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 01/10] rust: enable the `generic_arg_infer` feature Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 02/10] rust: num: add `shr` and `shl` methods to `Bounded` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] rust: num: add `into_bool` method " Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] rust: num: make Bounded::get const Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-27 12:33   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 05/10] rust: io: add IoLoc and IoWrite types Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-27 18:02   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-27 18:16     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-28  0:33     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-01 15:11       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-02  1:44         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-02 12:53           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-02 13:12             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-02 13:39               ` Gary Guo
2026-03-03  8:14                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-03  8:31                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-03 14:55                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-03 15:05                       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 16:18                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 18:39                         ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 18:58                           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 19:19                             ` John Hubbard [this message]
2026-03-04 19:53                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 19:57                                 ` John Hubbard
2026-03-04 20:05                                 ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 19:38                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 19:48                               ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 20:37                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 21:13                                   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 21:38                                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 21:42                                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 22:15                                       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 22:22                                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-06  5:37                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06  7:47                                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 10:42                                           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-06 11:10                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 11:35                                               ` Gary Guo
2026-03-06 12:50                                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 13:20                                                   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-06 14:32                                                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 14:52                                                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 15:10                                                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 15:35                                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 15:35                                                       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-07  0:05                                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-07 21:10                                                           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-07 21:40                                                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-08 11:43                                                               ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-08 11:35                                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-04 18:53                         ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 22:19   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-05 11:02     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 06/10] rust: io: use generic read/write accessors for primitive accesses Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-27 18:04   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 07/10] rust: io: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 08/10] sample: rust: pci: use " Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH FOR REFERENCE v7 09/10] gpu: nova-core: use the kernel " Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 10/10] RFC: rust: io: allow fixed register values directly in `write` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-25 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 00/10] rust: add `register!` macro Dirk Behme
2026-02-25 13:50   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-26 12:01     ` Dirk Behme
2026-02-27 23:30       ` Alexandre Courbot

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