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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Alice Ryhl <alice@ryhl.io>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <walmeida@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] rust: arc: remove `ArcBorrow` in favour of `WithRef`
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 22:26:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61ccfb87-54fd-3f1b-105c-253d0350cd56@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRIDc_x9Qh5EJNC8@boqun-archlinux>

On 26.09.23 00:02, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 11:58:46PM +0200, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>> On 9/25/23 23:55, Boqun Feng wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 09:03:52PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>>> On 25.09.23 20:51, Boqun Feng wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 05:00:45PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>>>>> On 25.09.23 18:16, Boqun Feng wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 03:07:44PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>>>>>>> ```rust
>>>>>>>> struct MutatingDrop {
>>>>>>>>          value: i32,
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> impl Drop for MutatingDrop {
>>>>>>>>          fn drop(&mut self) {
>>>>>>>>              self.value = 0;
>>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> let arc = Arc::new(MutatingDrop { value: 42 });
>>>>>>>> let wr = arc.as_with_ref(); // this creates a shared `&` reference to the MutatingDrop
>>>>>>>> let arc2: Arc<MutatingDrop> = wr.into(); // increments the reference count to 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More precisely, here we did a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 	&WithRef<_> -> NonNull<WithRef<_>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> conversion, and later on, we may use the `NonNull<WithRef<_>>` in
>>>>>>> `drop` to get a `Box<WithRef<_>>`.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we workaround this issue by (ab)using the `UnsafeCell` inside
>>>>> `WithRef<T>`?
>>>>>
>>>>> impl<T: ?Sized> From<&WithRef<T>> for Arc<T> {
>>>>>        fn from(b: &WithRef<T>) -> Self {
>>>>>            // SAFETY: The existence of the references proves that
>>>>> 	// `b.refcount.get()` is a valid pointer to `WithRef<T>`.
>>>>> 	let ptr = unsafe { NonNull::new_unchecked(b.refcount.get().cast::<WithRef<T>>()) };
>>>>>
>>>>> 	// SAFETY: see the SAFETY above `let ptr = ..` line.
>>>>>            ManuallyDrop::new(unsafe { Arc::from_inner(ptr) })
>>>>>                .deref()
>>>>>                .clone()
>>>>>        }
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> This way, the raw pointer in the new Arc no longer derives from the
>>>>> reference of `WithRef<T>`.
>>>>
>>>> No, the code above only obtains a pointer that has provenance valid
>>>> for a `bindings::refcount_t` (or type with the same layout, such as
>>>> `Opaque<bindings::refcount_t>`). But not the whole `WithRef<T>`, so accessing
>>>> it by reading/writing will still be UB.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm... but we do the similar thing in `Arc::from_raw()`, right?
>>>
>>>       	pub unsafe fn from_raw(ptr: *const T) -> Self {
>>> 	    ..
>>> 	}
>>>
>>> , what we have is a pointer to T, and we construct a pointer to
>>> `ArcInner<T>/WithRef<T>`, in that function. Because the `sub` on pointer
>>> gets away from provenance? If so, we can also do a sub(0) in the above
>>> code.
>>
>> Not sure what you mean. Operations on raw pointers leave provenance
>> unchanged.
> 
> Let's look at the function from_raw(), the input is a pointer to T,
> right? So you only have the provenance to T, but in that function, the
> pointer is casted to a pointer to WithRef<T>/ArcInner<T>, that means you
> have the provenance to the whole WithRef<T>/ArcInner<T>, right? My
> question is: why isn't that a UB?

The pointer was originally derived by a call to `into_raw`:
```
     pub fn into_raw(self) -> *const T {
         let ptr = self.ptr.as_ptr();
         core::mem::forget(self);
         // SAFETY: The pointer is valid.
         unsafe { core::ptr::addr_of!((*ptr).data) }
     }
```
So in this function the origin (also the origin of the provenance)
of the pointer is `ptr` which is of type `NonNull<WithRef<T>>`.
Raw pointers do not lose this provenance information when you cast
it and when using `addr_of`/`addr_of_mut`. So provenance is something
that is not really represented in the type system for raw pointers.

When doing a round trip through a reference though, the provenance is
newly assigned and thus would only be valid for a `T`:
```
let raw = arc.into_raw();
let reference = unsafe { &*raw };
let raw: *const T = reference;
let arc = unsafe { Arc::from_raw(raw) };
```
Miri would complain about the above code.

-- 
Cheers,
Benno



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-25 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23 14:49 [PATCH v2 0/2] Remove `ArcBorrow` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-09-23 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: arc: rename `ArcInner` to `WithRef` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-09-23 19:31   ` Martin Rodriguez Reboredo
2023-09-24 11:59   ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-24 13:41   ` Jianguo Bao
2023-09-25  6:21   ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-23 14:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rust: arc: remove `ArcBorrow` in favour of `WithRef` Wedson Almeida Filho
2023-09-23 19:32   ` Martin Rodriguez Reboredo
2023-09-24 11:59   ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-24 13:36   ` Jianguo Bao
2023-09-25  6:29   ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25  9:14     ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 14:49       ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 15:00         ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 15:17           ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 15:30             ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 16:02               ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 16:11                 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 15:07         ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 16:16           ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 17:00             ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 18:51               ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 21:03                 ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-25 21:55                   ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 21:58                     ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 22:02                       ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 22:06                         ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 22:26                         ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2023-09-25 22:34                           ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-25 23:24                             ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26  8:26                           ` Gary Guo
2023-09-26 15:24                             ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 15:41                               ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-26 16:35                                 ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 17:15                                   ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-26 17:43                                     ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 18:26                                       ` Benno Lossin
2023-09-26 21:31                                       ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-26 18:20                                     ` Boqun Feng
2023-09-26 21:27                                       ` Alice Ryhl
2023-09-25 15:04       ` Alice Ryhl

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