From: Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
To: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, robh@kernel.org,
krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
linux@armlinux.org.uk, florian.fainelli@broadcom.com,
bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com, kabel@kernel.org,
andrei.botila@oss.nxp.com, tmgross@umich.edu, ojeda@kernel.org,
alex.gaynor@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net,
bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, benno.lossin@proton.me,
a.hindborg@kernel.org, aliceryhl@google.com, dakr@kernel.org,
sd@queasysnail.net, michael@fossekall.de, daniel@makrotopia.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v10 7/7] rust: net::phy sync with match_phy_device C changes
Date: Sat, 17 May 2025 22:09:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6828ece4.050a0220.49f8b.ca57@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D9YO3781UI2X.1CI7FG1EATN8G@kernel.org>
On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 09:02:51PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Sat May 17, 2025 at 3:13 PM CEST, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > On Sat, 17 May 2025 10:06:13 +0200
> > "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>> I looked at the `phy.rs` file again and now I'm pretty sure the above
> >>>> code is wrong. `Self` can be implemented on any type (even types like
> >>>> `Infallible` that do not have any valid bit patterns, since it's an
> >>>> empty enum). The abstraction for `bindings::phy_driver` is
> >>>> `DriverVTable` not an object of type `Self`, so you should cast to that
> >>>> pointer instead.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah.
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to delay this patchset due to Rust side changes so
> >>> casting a pointer to bindings::phy_driver to DriverVTable is ok but
> >>> the following signature doesn't look useful for Rust phy drivers:
> >>>
> >>> fn match_phy_device(_dev: &mut Device, _drv: &DriverVTable) -> bool
> >>>
> >>> struct DriverVTable is only used to create an array of
> >>> bindings::phy_driver for C side, and it doesn't provide any
> >>> information to the Rust driver.
> >>
> >> Yeah, but we could add accessor functions that provide that information.
> >
> > Yes. I thought that implementation was one of the options as well but
> > realized it makes sense because inside match_phy_device() callback, a
> > driver might call a helper function that takes a pointer to
> > bindings::phy_driver (please see below for details).
> >
> >
> >> Although that doesn't really make sense at the moment, see below.
> >>
> >>> In match_phy_device(), for example, a device driver accesses to
> >>> PHY_DEVICE_ID, which the Driver trait provides. I think we need to
> >>> create an instance of the device driver's own type that implements the
> >>> Driver trait and make it accessible.
> >>
> >> I think that's wrong, nothing stops me from implementing `Driver` for an
> >> empty enum and that can't be instantiated. The reason that one wants to
> >> have this in C is because the same `match` function is used for
> >> different drivers (or maybe devices? I'm not too familiar with the
> >> terminology). In Rust, you must implement the match function for a
> >> single PHY_DEVICE_ID only, so maybe we don't need to change the
> >> signature at all?
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand the last sentence. The Rust PHY abstraction
> > allows one module to support multiple drivers. So we can could the
> > similar trick that the second patch in this patchset does.
> >
> > fn match_device_id(dev: &mut phy::Device, drv: &phy::DriverVTable) -> bool {
> > // do comparison workking for three drivers
> > }
>
> I wouldn't do it like this in Rust, instead this would be a "rustier"
> function signature:
>
> fn match_device_id<T: Driver>(dev: &mut phy::Device) -> bool {
> // do the comparison with T::PHY_DEVICE_ID
> dev.id() == T::PHY_DEVICE_ID
> }
>
> And then in the impls for Phy{A,B,C,D} do this:
>
> impl Driver for PhyA {
> fn match_phy_device(dev: &mut phy::Device) -> bool {
> match_device_id::<Self>(dev)
> }
> }
>
My 2 cent about the discussion and I'm totally detached from how it
works on Rust kernel code but shouldn't we try to keep parallel API and
args between C and Rust?
I know maybe some thing doesn't make sense from C to Rust but doesn't
deviates from C code introduce more confusion when something need to be
ported from C to Rust?
Again no idea if this apply so I'm just curious about this.
> >
> > #[vtable]
> > impl Driver for PhyA {
> > ...
> > fn match_phy_device(dev: &mut phy::Device, drv: &phy::DriverVTable) -> bool {
> > match_device_id(dev, drv)
> > }
> > }
> >
> > #[vtable]
> > impl Driver for PhyB {
> > ...
> > fn match_phy_device(dev: &mut phy::Device, drv: &phy::DriverVTable) -> bool {
> > match_device_id(dev, drv)
> > }
> > }
> >
> > #[vtable]
> > impl Driver for PhyC {
> > ...
> > fn match_phy_device(dev: &mut phy::Device, drv: &phy::DriverVTable) -> bool {
> > match_device_id(dev, drv)
> > }
> > }
> >
> >
> > The other use case, as mentioned above, is when using the generic helper
> > function inside match_phy_device() callback. For example, the 4th
> > patch in this patchset adds genphy_match_phy_device():
> >
> > int genphy_match_phy_device(struct phy_device *phydev,
> > const struct phy_driver *phydrv)
> >
> > We could add a wrapper for this function as phy::Device's method like
> >
> > impl Device {
> > ...
> > pub fn genphy_match_phy_device(&self, drv: &phy::DriverVTable) -> i32
>
> Not sure why this returns an `i32`, but we probably could have such a
> function as well (though I wouldn't use the vtable for that).
>
Mhh looking at some comments, maybe the module needs some extra love here
and there.
>
> > Then a driver could do something like 5th patch in the patchset:
> >
> > #[vtable]
> > impl Driver for PhyD {
> > ...
> > fn match_phy_device(dev: &mut phy::Device, drv: &phy::DriverVTable) -> bool {
> > let val = dev.genphy_match_phy_device(drv);
> > ...
> > }
> > }
>
--
Ansuel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-17 20:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 11:27 [net-next PATCH v10 0/7] net: phy: Add support for new Aeonsemi PHYs Christian Marangi
2025-05-15 11:27 ` [net-next PATCH v10 1/7] net: phy: pass PHY driver to .match_phy_device OP Christian Marangi
2025-05-15 11:27 ` [net-next PATCH v10 2/7] net: phy: bcm87xx: simplify " Christian Marangi
2025-05-15 11:27 ` [net-next PATCH v10 3/7] net: phy: nxp-c45-tja11xx: " Christian Marangi
2025-05-15 11:27 ` [net-next PATCH v10 4/7] net: phy: introduce genphy_match_phy_device() Christian Marangi
2025-05-15 11:27 ` [net-next PATCH v10 5/7] net: phy: Add support for Aeonsemi AS21xxx PHYs Christian Marangi
2025-05-15 11:27 ` [net-next PATCH v10 6/7] dt-bindings: net: Document support for Aeonsemi PHYs Christian Marangi
2025-05-15 11:27 ` [net-next PATCH v10 7/7] rust: net::phy sync with match_phy_device C changes Christian Marangi
2025-05-15 11:49 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-15 11:51 ` Christian Marangi
2025-05-15 12:01 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-16 12:30 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-05-16 14:48 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-16 15:12 ` Christian Marangi
2025-05-16 20:16 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-17 6:27 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-05-17 8:06 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-17 13:13 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-05-17 19:02 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-17 20:09 ` Christian Marangi [this message]
2025-05-18 7:13 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 12:00 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-05-19 12:32 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 12:44 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-05-19 12:51 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 12:58 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-05-16 15:10 ` Christian Marangi
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=6828ece4.050a0220.49f8b.ca57@mx.google.com \
--to=ansuelsmth@gmail.com \
--cc=a.hindborg@kernel.org \
--cc=alex.gaynor@gmail.com \
--cc=aliceryhl@google.com \
--cc=andrei.botila@oss.nxp.com \
--cc=andrew+netdev@lunn.ch \
--cc=bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com \
--cc=benno.lossin@proton.me \
--cc=bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com \
--cc=boqun.feng@gmail.com \
--cc=conor+dt@kernel.org \
--cc=dakr@kernel.org \
--cc=daniel@makrotopia.org \
--cc=davem@davemloft.net \
--cc=devicetree@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=edumazet@google.com \
--cc=florian.fainelli@broadcom.com \
--cc=fujita.tomonori@gmail.com \
--cc=gary@garyguo.net \
--cc=hkallweit1@gmail.com \
--cc=kabel@kernel.org \
--cc=krzk+dt@kernel.org \
--cc=kuba@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux@armlinux.org.uk \
--cc=lossin@kernel.org \
--cc=michael@fossekall.de \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=ojeda@kernel.org \
--cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
--cc=robh@kernel.org \
--cc=rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=sd@queasysnail.net \
--cc=tmgross@umich.edu \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).