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From: Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas.dufresne@collabora.com>
To: Asahi Lina <lina@asahilina.net>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	wedsonaf@gmail.com, ojeda@kernel.org, mchehab@kernel.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, kernel@collabora.com,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Initial Rust V4L2 support
Date: Mon, 01 May 2023 16:19:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75d9d50fd0e6858ee05a3f2799028b8dc846ec93.camel@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe2dc70b-915c-ca2b-be81-a8ee66cf41cd@asahilina.net>

Le mardi 02 mai 2023 à 05:17 +0900, Asahi Lina a écrit :
> On 02/05/2023 05.10, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
> > Le mercredi 26 avril 2023 à 20:25 +0300, Laurent Pinchart a écrit :
> > > Hi Daniel,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 06:14:33PM +0100, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > As I said higher up on this thread, I can maintain the Rust bits and
> > > > help out with the issues around it.
> > > > 
> > > > IMHO, we should at least try this. Who knows, it might work out :)
> > > > 
> > > > Laurent, maybe we can take a piecemeal approach? Right now there are no
> > > > bindings for MC, but I wouldn't complain about fixing some of the C code
> > > > when the time comes.
> > > 
> > > The lifetime issues affect plain V4L2 video nodes too I'm afraid :-)
> > 
> > Everything under the bindings is unsafe code, so it does not prevent doing upper
> > implementation and have other things be memory safe. It just make Rust less
> > helpful in some cases (I guess everything across ops).
> > 
> > There is low hanging fruit if some folks are interested. I see legitimate
> > benefit in rewriting in rust the JPEG parser, the H.264 reference list
> > generator, and maybe VP9 probability update lib. AV1 driver will need a lib to
> > reduce duplicates, this could be done straight in Rust (offering a C interface
> > of course, so it does not matter if the users are written in rust or C).
> 
> Unfortunately I don't think actually replacing the C implementations 
> will be possible until Rust architecture support is on par with C, which 
> probably means waiting until gccrs is ready...
> 
> We could have both implementations until then (and only use the C one 
> where Rust doesn't work), but the code duplication has an extra 
> maintenance cost so it's not free. That's why people are mostly focusing 
> on drivers first instead of core code.

Didn't know that, let's postpone this idea then.

thanks,
Nicolas

> 
> ~~ Lina
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-01 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 21:56 [PATCH 0/6] Initial Rust V4L2 support Daniel Almeida
2023-04-06 21:56 ` [PATCH 1/6] rust: media: add the media module Daniel Almeida
2023-04-06 21:56 ` [PATCH 2/6] rust: media: add initial videodev2.h abstractions Daniel Almeida
2023-04-06 21:56 ` [PATCH 3/6] rust: sync: introduce FfiMutex Daniel Almeida
2023-04-06 21:56 ` [PATCH 4/6] rust: media: videobuf2: add a videobuf2 abstraction Daniel Almeida
2023-04-06 21:56 ` [PATCH 5/6] rust: media: add {video|v4l2}_device_register support Daniel Almeida
2023-04-06 21:56 ` [PATCH 6/6] rust: media: add v4l2 rust sample Daniel Almeida
2023-04-08 19:06 ` [PATCH 0/6] Initial Rust V4L2 support Daniel Almeida
2023-04-08 19:43 ` Hans Petter Selasky
2023-04-09 14:10   ` Daniel Almeida
2023-04-10 18:59     ` Hans Petter Selasky
2023-04-10 23:41       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-11  9:52         ` Hans Petter Selasky
2023-04-11 12:36           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-11 13:15             ` Hans Petter Selasky
2023-04-11 14:19               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-11 15:33                 ` Hans Petter Selasky
2023-04-11 19:22                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-12 10:00                     ` Hans Petter Selasky
2023-04-12 10:13                       ` Greg KH
2023-04-12 10:23                         ` Hans Petter Selasky
2023-04-10 23:40     ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-26 14:31   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2023-04-10 22:46 ` Deborah Brouwer
2023-04-11 14:22   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-12  2:58     ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-04-12 12:21       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-12 12:38       ` Morten Linderud
2023-04-12 18:44       ` Nicolas Dufresne
     [not found]       ` <aae753d6-6874-4f91-e7ba-bd6c77f07b62@metux.net>
2023-04-26 15:33         ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-11  7:51 ` Hans Verkuil
2023-04-11 12:02   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-11 12:49     ` Willy Tarreau
2023-04-11 14:01       ` Daniel Almeida
2023-04-11 14:13       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-11 16:52         ` Willy Tarreau
2023-04-11 19:27           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-11 20:26             ` Willy Tarreau
2023-04-11 22:14               ` Miguel Ojeda
     [not found]                 ` <0da49a77-14d8-cb9d-e36d-985699746b6b@metux.net>
2023-04-26 16:05                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-26  0:32     ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]       ` <57ec90ad-8535-fa7d-d6de-d5c1d06f37d3@metux.net>
2023-04-26 13:29         ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-04-26 16:18       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-04-26 16:35         ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-04-26 17:14           ` Daniel Almeida
2023-04-26 17:25             ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-05-01 20:10               ` Nicolas Dufresne
2023-05-01 20:17                 ` Asahi Lina
2023-05-01 20:19                   ` Nicolas Dufresne [this message]
2023-05-02 19:13                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-05-03 11:00                     ` Daniel Almeida
2023-04-26 19:58           ` Sakari Ailus
2023-07-05  6:40 ` Hans Verkuil

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