From: Christian Schrefl <chrisi.schrefl@gmail.com>
To: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>, Sky <sky@sky9.dev>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Gerald Wisböck" <gerald.wisboeck@feather.ink>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] rust: add UnsafePinned type
Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 21:11:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7bc9f839-a69a-4819-ba6d-36eadd8776b3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D9L1TI5NVKJU.361JFPWMLDWN4@kernel.org>
On 01.05.25 8:51 PM, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On Wed Apr 30, 2025 at 7:30 PM CEST, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>> On 30.04.25 11:45 AM, Benno Lossin wrote:
>>> On Wed Apr 30, 2025 at 10:36 AM CEST, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>>>> +/// This implementation works because of the "`!Unpin` hack" in rustc, which allows (some kinds of)
>>>> +/// mutual aliasing of `!Unpin` types. This hack might be removed at some point, after which only
>>>> +/// the `core::pin::UnsafePinned` type will allow this behavior. In order to simplify the migration
>>>> +/// to future rust versions only this polyfill of this type should be used when this behavior is
>>>> +/// required.
>>>> +///
>>>> +/// In order to disable niche optimizations this implementation uses [`UnsafeCell`] internally,
>>>> +/// the upstream version however will not. So the fact that [`UnsafePinned`] contains an
>>>> +/// [`UnsafeCell`] must not be relied on (Other than the niche blocking).
>>>
>>> I would make this last paragraph a normal comment, I don't think we
>>> should expose it in the docs.
>>
>> I added this as docs since I wanted it to be a bit more visible,
>> but I can replace the comment text (about `UnsafeCell`) with this paragraph
>> and drop it from the docs if you want.
>
> I think we shouldn't talk about these implementation details in the
> docs.
Alright, what do you think of:
// As opposed to the upstream Rust type this contains a `PhantomPinned`` and `UnsafeCell<T>`
// - `PhantomPinned` to avoid needing a `impl<T> !Unpin for UnsafePinned<T>`
// Required to use the `!Unpin hack`.
// - In order to disable niche optimizations this implementation uses `UnsafeCell` internally,
// the upstream version however currently does not. This will most likely change in the future
// but for now we don't expose this in the documentation, since adding the guarantee is simpler
// than removing it. Meaning that for now the fact that `UnsafePinned` contains an `UnsafeCell`
// must not be relied on (Other than the niche blocking).
>
>>>> +// As opposed to the upstream Rust type this contains a `PhantomPinned`` and `UnsafeCell<T>`
>>>> +// - `PhantomPinned` to avoid needing a `impl<T> !Unpin for UnsafePinned<T>`
>>>> +// Required to use the `!Unpin hack`.
>>>> +// - `UnsafeCell<T>` instead of T to disallow niche optimizations,
>>>> +// which is handled in the compiler in upstream Rust
>>>> +#[repr(transparent)]
>>>> +pub struct UnsafePinned<T: ?Sized> {
>>>> + _ph: PhantomPinned,
>>>> + value: UnsafeCell<T>,
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +impl<T> UnsafePinned<T> {
>>>> + /// Constructs a new instance of [`UnsafePinned`] which will wrap the specified value.
>>>> + ///
>>>> + /// All access to the inner value through `&UnsafePinned<T>` or `&mut UnsafePinned<T>` or
>>>> + /// `Pin<&mut UnsafePinned<T>>` requires `unsafe` code.
>>>> + #[inline(always)]
>>>> + #[must_use]
>>>> + pub const fn new(value: T) -> Self {
>>>> + UnsafePinned {
>>>> + value: UnsafeCell::new(value),
>>>> + _ph: PhantomPinned,
>>>> + }
>>>> + }
>>>> +}
>>>> +impl<T: ?Sized> UnsafePinned<T> {
>>>> + /// Get read-only access to the contents of a shared `UnsafePinned`.
>>>> + ///
>>>> + /// Note that `&UnsafePinned<T>` is read-only if `&T` is read-only. This means that if there is
>>>> + /// mutation of the `T`, future reads from the `*const T` returned here are UB! Use
>>>> + /// [`UnsafeCell`] if you also need interior mutability.
>>>
>>> I agree with copy-pasting the docs from upstream, even though our
>>> implementation already wraps the value in `UnsafeCell`, but I think we
>>> should include a comment at the top of this doc that mentions this
>>> difference. So something along the lines "In order to make replacing
>>> this type with the upstream one, we want to have as little API
>>> divergence as possible. Thus we don't mention the implementation detail
>>> of `UnsafeCell` and people have to use `UnsafePinned<UnsafeCell<T>>`
>>> instead of just `UnsafePinned<T>`." feel free to modify.
>>>
>>
>> I already wrote about this in comments (and documentation in this version)
>> on the `UnsafePinned` type definition.
>>
>> I'm not sure where exactly we want to have this, but I think having it
>> at the top of the file and on the type definition is a bit redundant.
>
> Sure.
I'll add the following sentence to the end of the module documentation:
For details on the difference to the upstream implementation see the
comment on the [`UnsafePinned`] struct definition.
>
>>>> + /// Gets a mutable pointer to the wrapped value.
>>>> + ///
>>>> + /// The difference from `get_mut_pinned` and `get_mut_unchecked` is that this function
>>>> + /// accepts a raw pointer, which is useful to avoid the creation of temporary references.
>>>
>>> You did not include the `get_mut_{pinned,unchecked}` methods, so
>>> mentioning them here in the docs might confuse people. Do we want to
>>> have those methods?
>>
>> I only included the functions that we needed for `Opaque` and my
>> `miscdevice' patches. I think these functions should only be added
>> once they have a user. That's why I wrote the next sentence in the
>> documents.
>>
>> Should I handle this differently?
>>
>> It should be a really simple patch to add these functions and I can
>> do that if someone needs them or I can just include them in this
>> patch set.
>
> Then I'd remove the sentence referencing the functions you don't add.
Alright
Cheers
Christian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-01 19:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-30 8:36 [PATCH v2 0/3] rust: add `UnsafePinned` type Christian Schrefl
2025-04-30 8:36 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] rust: add UnsafePinned type Christian Schrefl
2025-04-30 9:16 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-30 9:19 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-30 16:45 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-30 9:45 ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-30 17:30 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-01 18:51 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-01 19:11 ` Christian Schrefl [this message]
2025-05-01 22:51 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-02 0:08 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-02 8:35 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-02 9:00 ` Ralf Jung
2025-05-01 17:12 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-01 18:55 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-02 8:57 ` Ralf Jung
2025-04-30 8:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] rust: implement `Wrapper<T>` for `Opaque<T>` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-30 9:20 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-30 9:32 ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-30 8:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] rust: use `UnsafePinned` in the implementation of `Opaque` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-30 9:18 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-04-30 9:35 ` Benno Lossin
2025-04-30 16:44 ` Boqun Feng
2025-04-30 17:07 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-04-30 9:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] rust: add `UnsafePinned` type Benno Lossin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-01-31 15:08 [PATCH v2 0/3] rust: miscdevice: Add additional data to MiscDeviceRegistration Christian Schrefl
2025-01-31 15:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] rust: add UnsafePinned type Christian Schrefl
2025-03-26 20:26 ` Benno Lossin
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