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From: Christian Schrefl <chrisi.schrefl@gmail.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, "Lee Jones" <lee@kernel.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] rust: miscdevice: Add additional data to MiscDeviceRegistration
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 16:52:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81cffd91-6b0b-4f09-a5c8-e1697975502e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2025012243-myspace-woof-1d1e@gregkh>



On 22.01.25 10:28 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 11:11:14PM +0100, Christian Schrefl wrote:
>> When using the Rust miscdevice bindings, you generally embed the
>> MiscDeviceRegistration within another struct:
>>
>> struct MyDriverData {
>>     data: SomeOtherData,
>>     misc: MiscDeviceRegistration<MyMiscFile>
>> }
>>
>> In the `fops->open` callback of the miscdevice, you are given a
>> reference to the registration, which allows you to access its fields.
>> For example, as of commit 284ae0be4dca ("rust: miscdevice: Provide
>> accessor to pull out miscdevice::this_device") you can access the
>> internal `struct device`. However, there is still no way to access the
>> `data` field in the above example, because you only have a reference to
>> the registration.
> 
> What's wrong with the driver_data pointer in the misc device structure?
> Shouldn't you be in control of that as you are a misc driver owner?  Or
> does the misc core handle this I can't recall at the moment, sorry.


I don't know the internals of (C) miscdevice good enough to know where I'm
allowed to store something, since there is no private_data field.

Not sure how the lifetimes of the whole device and device->driver_data are.
But even that instead we use that we will need a rust abstraction for that to
allow safe drivers.

> 
>> Using container_of is also not possible to do safely. For example, if
>> the destructor of `MyDriverData` runs, then the destructor of `data`
>> would run before the miscdevice is deregistered, so using container_of
>> to access `data` from `fops->open` could result in a UAF. A similar
>> problem can happen on initialization if `misc` is not the last field to
>> be initialized.
>>
>> To provide a safe way to access user-defined data stored next to the
>> `struct miscdevice`, make `MiscDeviceRegistration` into a container that
>> can store a user-provided piece of data. This way, `fops->open` can
>> access that data via the registration, since the data is stored inside
>> the registration.
> 
> "next to" feels odd, that's what a container_of is for, but be careful
> as to who owns the lifecycle of the object you are trying to get to.
> You can't have multiple objects with different lifecycles in the same
> structure (i.e. don't mix a misc device and a platform device together).
> 
> So a real example here would be good to see, can you post your driver at
> the same time so that we can see what you are doing and perhaps provide
> a better way to do it?


The `struct miscdevice` is currently the first item in the 
`MiscDeviceRegistration` so the  `struct miscdevice` and the 
`MiscDeviceRegistration` have the same address.
I can use container_of! if people think that more understandable.

> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-23 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-19 22:11 [PATCH 0/3] rust: miscdevice: Add additional data to MiscDeviceRegistration Christian Schrefl
2025-01-19 22:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] rust: add Aliased type Christian Schrefl
2025-01-19 23:04   ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-20  0:27     ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-20 17:24   ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-23 10:21     ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-23 17:56       ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-23 18:04         ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-23 18:25           ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-23 20:18             ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-23 20:24               ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-23 20:27                 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-19 22:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] rust: miscdevice: Add additional data to MiscDeviceRegistration Christian Schrefl
2025-01-20  0:27   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-21 10:53   ` kernel test robot
2025-01-22  9:28   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-22 10:11     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-22 12:40       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-22 13:06         ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-23 10:02           ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-23 15:52     ` Christian Schrefl [this message]
2025-01-23 16:00       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-23 16:04         ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-23 23:26   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-27 10:27     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27 13:27       ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-27 13:33         ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-27 13:35           ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-27 13:42           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-19 22:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] rust: miscdevice: adjust the rust_misc_device sample to use RegistrationData Christian Schrefl
2025-01-21 15:40   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-23 17:57     ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-24  7:29       ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-24  8:06         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-24  9:42           ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-24 10:34             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-24 10:39               ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-24 11:22                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-24 11:37                   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-24 11:42                     ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-20  5:46 ` [PATCH 0/3] rust: miscdevice: Add additional data to MiscDeviceRegistration Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-21 10:29   ` Christian Schrefl
2025-01-22  9:22     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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