From: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
To: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
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"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
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"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
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"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimer::raw_forward() and forward()
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 17:04:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <856a0607535853db9bb5bcfe9a838bbead2e48ae.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v7qn2tgl.fsf@kernel.org>
On Tue, 2025-04-29 at 11:43 +0200, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> The function must be safe to call whenever the safety requirements are
> satisfied. `self_ptr` pointing to a valid `Self` is not enough for this.
> We must also satisfy the conditions for calling
> `bindings::hrtimer_forward`, which are a) we are in timer context, or b)
> there are no other threads modifying the timer. a) implies b) because
> the hrtimer framework holds a lock in timer context, if I recall
> correctly.
I mentioned in an earlier response that a) might imply b), but a you pointed
out that's mostly only true for types where you can get mutable access in the
first place. And at least within safe code, I think you were correct when you
said we don't really get a &mut to timer, the closest we could get would be
Pin<&mut> in certain cases.
>
> We can satisfy these by requiring exclusive access, right? In timer
> context, it is given by C API contract, outside, we just have to have
> &mut ref to the timer.
I don't think so. For one, it's worth pointing out that at least as far as I
can tell in __run_hrtimer() we only hold the lock when updating the timer
struct to indicate that it's being executed. We drop the hrtimer cpu_base lock
for the duration of the callback execution.
But besides that, a lot of the hrtimer API allows you to read various state
regarding a timer without holding any lock, and in parallel with an executing
timer. The expires() function that I added is one such example. So outside of
the exceptions that I mentioned above, we don't ever get a guarantee from
running in the timer callback context that we have exclusive access to the
hrtimer.
Feel free to point out if I'm misunderstanding something here though.
--
Cheers,
Lyude Paul (she/her)
Software Engineer at Red Hat
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-29 21:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-15 19:48 [PATCH v2 0/8] rust/hrtimer: Various hrtimer + time additions Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] rust: hrtimer: Document the return value for HrTimerHandle::cancel() Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 8:36 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimer::raw_forward() and forward() Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 12:13 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-25 20:15 ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-29 9:43 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-29 21:04 ` Lyude Paul [this message]
2025-04-23 12:18 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-23 12:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-25 21:06 ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-25 21:29 ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-29 10:10 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimerCallbackContext and ::forward() Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 12:24 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimerClockBase Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 12:27 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-28 18:22 ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] rust: time: Add Instant::from_nanos() Lyude Paul
2025-04-16 9:10 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-04-16 18:41 ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 12:29 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-29 16:01 ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-29 19:53 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimerClockBase::time() Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] rust: hrtimer: Add forward_now() to HrTimer and HrTimerCallbackContext Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 20:17 ` [PATCH v3] " Lyude Paul
2025-04-22 12:18 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-22 19:21 ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimer::expires() Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 13:01 ` Andreas Hindborg
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