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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
Cc: <rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>,  <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	<daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	 "Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	 "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] rust: types: `Opaque` doc: Add some destructor description
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 08:47:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871pvbhqap.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250305053438.1532397-2-dirk.behme@de.bosch.com> (Dirk Behme's message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2025 06:34:38 +0100")

"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com> writes:

> In the discussion [1] some `Opaque` documentation updates have
> been proposed. In that discussion it was clarified that `Opaque`
> is intended to be used for (partial) uninitialized or changing C
> structs. And which consequences this has for using raw pointers
> or the destruction. Improve the `Opaque` documentation by adding
> these conclusions from that discussion.
>
> Suggested-by: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/F8AB1160-F8CF-412F-8B88-4C79D65B53A1@collabora.com/ [1]
> Signed-off-by: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
>
> ---
> Changes in v3:
>    * Add the "terse" proposals.
>    * Move the non-linkage artifact from patch 1/2 to here.
>
>  rust/kernel/types.rs | 26 +++++++++++++++++++++-----
>  1 file changed, 21 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/rust/kernel/types.rs b/rust/kernel/types.rs
> index af30e9c0ebccb..f370cdb48a648 100644
> --- a/rust/kernel/types.rs
> +++ b/rust/kernel/types.rs
> @@ -271,17 +271,33 @@ fn drop(&mut self) {
>
>  /// Stores an opaque value.
>  ///
> -/// [`Opaque<T>`] is meant to be used with FFI objects that are never interpreted by Rust code.
> +/// [`Opaque<T>`] opts out of the following Rust language invariants for the contained `T`
> +/// by using [`UnsafeCell`]:
>  ///
> -/// It is used to wrap structs from the C side, like for example `Opaque<bindings::mutex>`.
> -/// It gets rid of all the usual assumptions that Rust has for a value:
> +/// * Initialization invariant - the contained value is allowed to be uninitialized and
> +///   contain invalid bit patterns.
> +/// * Immutability invariant - [`Opaque<T>`] allows interior mutability.
> +/// * Uniqueness invariant - [`Opaque<T>`] allows aliasing of shared references.

This last one is wrong (I know it's probably my fault, sorry). It should be:

  /// * Uniqueness invariant - [`Opaque<T>`] allows aliasing of **exclusive** references.

> +///
> +/// Further, [`Opaque<T>`] is `!Unpin` and will not run the drop method of the contained `T`
> +/// when dropped.

Could you link `Unpin` here?

>  ///
> -/// * The value is allowed to be uninitialized (for example have invalid bit patterns: `3` for a
> -///   [`bool`]).
> +/// [`Opaque<T>`] is meant to be used with FFI objects that are never interpreted by Rust code.
> +/// It is used to wrap structs from the C side, like for example `Opaque<bindings::mutex>`.
> +/// This is useful for C structs that are not fully initialized (yet) or might change their
> +/// content from C side at runtime. [`Opaque<T>`] gets rid of all the usual assumptions that
> +/// Rust has for a value of type `T`:
> +///
> +/// * The value is allowed to be uninitialized or invalid (for example have invalid bit patterns:
> +///   `3` for a [`bool`]).
> +/// * By dereferencing a raw pointer to the value you are unsafely asserting that the value is
> +///   valid *right now*.
>  /// * The value is allowed to be mutated, when a `&Opaque<T>` exists on the Rust side.
>  /// * No uniqueness for mutable references: it is fine to have multiple `&mut Opaque<T>` point to
>  ///   the same value.
>  /// * The value is not allowed to be shared with other threads (i.e. it is `!Sync`).

Link `Sync` here. You might need a [`!Sync`]: `Sync` at the bottom for
it to work.

> +/// * The destructor of [`Opaque<T>`] does *not* run the destructor of `T`, as `T` may
> +///   be uninitialized, as described above.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg




  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2025-03-05  5:34 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] rust: types: `Opaque` doc: Add some intra doc linkage Dirk Behme
2025-03-05  5:34   ` [PATCH v3 2/2] rust: types: `Opaque` doc: Add some destructor description Dirk Behme
2025-03-05  7:47     ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-03-05 15:39       ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-05 17:32         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05 18:49           ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-05 21:07             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-06  6:01               ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-06  9:42                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-06 10:45                   ` Benno Lossin
2025-03-07  0:00                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-06  9:48               ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-07  8:22                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-10 16:20                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-05 15:25     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-05  7:41   ` [PATCH v3 1/2] rust: types: `Opaque` doc: Add some intra doc linkage Andreas Hindborg
2025-03-05  8:12   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-03-05  8:40   ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-10 14:25   ` Miguel Ojeda

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