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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
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	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
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	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2025 10:43:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bjq4xpv7.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB03MZI2FCOW.2JBFL3TY38FK@kernel.org> (Benno Lossin's message of "Mon, 30 Jun 2025 21:02:37 +0200")

"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:

> On Mon Jun 30, 2025 at 3:15 PM CEST, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:
>>> On Mon Jun 30, 2025 at 1:18 PM CEST, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>>>> "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:
>>>>> (no idea if the orderings are correct, I always have to think way to
>>>>> much about that... especially since our atomics seem to only take one
>>>>> ordering in compare_exchange?)
>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I can tell, atomics may not land in v6.17, so this series
>>>>>> will probably not be ready for merge until v6.18 at the earliest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, sorry about that :(
>>>>
>>>> Actually, perhaps we could aim at merging this code without this
>>>> synchronization?
>>>
>>> I won't remember this issue in a few weeks and I fear that it will just
>>> get buried. In fact, I already had to re-read now what the actual issue
>>> was...
>>>
>>>> The lack of synchronization is only a problem if we
>>>> support custom parsing. This patch set does not allow custom parsing
>>>> code, so it does not suffer this issue.
>>>
>>> ... In doing that, I saw my original example of UB:
>>>
>>>     module! {
>>>         // ...
>>>         params: {
>>>             my_param: i64 {
>>>                 default: 0,
>>>                 description: "",
>>>             },
>>>         },
>>>     }
>>>
>>>     static BAD: &'static i64 = module_parameters::my_param.get();
>>>
>>> That can happen without custom parsing, so it's still a problem...
>>
>> Ah, got it. Thanks.
>
> On second thought, we *could* just make the accessor function `unsafe`.
> Of course with a pinky promise to make the implementation safe once
> atomics land. But I think if it helps you get your driver faster along,
> then we should do it.

No, I am OK for now with configfs.

But, progress is still great. How about if we add a copy accessor
instead for now, I think you proposed that a few million emails ago:

    pub fn get(&self) -> T;

or maybe rename:

    pub fn copy(&self) -> T;

Then we are fine safety wise for now, right? It is even sensible for
these `T: Copy` types.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg




  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-01  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-12 13:40 [PATCH v13 0/6] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 1/6] rust: str: add radix prefixed integer parsing functions Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:38   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 11:12     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:17       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:41         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:59   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:20     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:55       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 10:31         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 13:15   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 11:29     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-20 11:52       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-20 12:28       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23  9:44         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 11:48           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 12:37             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-23 13:55               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 14:31             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 15:20               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 11:57                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27  7:57                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27  8:23                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 11:18                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:27                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 13:15                           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 19:02                             ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01  8:43                               ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-07-01  9:05                                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 14:14                                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01 15:43                                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 16:27                                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-01 16:54                                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02  8:30                                           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-02  8:26                                         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-02 10:01                                           ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02  7:56                                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23  9:47         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 3/6] rust: module: use a reference in macros::module::module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:07   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 4/6] rust: module: update the module macro with module parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 21:07   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:31     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 5/6] rust: samples: add a module parameter to the rust_minimal sample Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 19:48   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 11:30   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:12     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:18       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:23         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:31           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 6/6] modules: add rust modules files to MAINTAINERS Andreas Hindborg

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