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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: "Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@redhat.com>,
	airlied@redhat.com, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Martin Rodriguez Reboredo" <yakoyoku@gmail.com>,
	"Valentin Obst" <kernel@valentinobst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/3] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 14:57:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sesxa5i0.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZwPXSs62WY0qNLr6@boqun-archlinux> (Boqun Feng's message of "Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:42:50 -0700")

Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 02:19:38PM -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
>> On Fri, 2024-10-04 at 14:48 -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
>> > 
>> > FWIW: I agree we want things to map C closely wherever we can, but part of the
>> > reason of having rust in the kernel at all is to take advantage of the
>> > features it provides us that aren't in C - so there's always going to be
>> > differences in some places. This being said though, I'm more then happy to
>> > minimize those as much as possible and explore ways to figure out how to make
>> > it so that correctly using these interfaces is as obvious and not-error prone
>> > as possible. The last thing I want is to encourage bad patterns in drivers
>> > that maintainers have to deal with the headaches of for ages to come,
>> > especially when rust should be able to help with this as opposed to harm :).
>> 
>> I was thinking about this a bit more today and I realized I might actually
>> have a better solution that I think would actually map a lot closer to the C
>> primitives and I feel a bit silly it didn't occur to me before.
>> 
>> What if instead of with_interrupts_disabled, we extended Lock so that types
>> like SpinLockIrq that require a context like IrqDisabled can require the use
>> of two new methods:
>> 
>> * first_lock<R>(&self, cb: impl for<'a> FnOnce(Guard<'a, T, B>, B::Context<'a>) -> R) -> R
>
> I think you really want to use a `&mut T` instead of `Guard<'a, T, B>`,
> otherwise people can do:
>
> 	let g = lock1.first_lock(|guard, _ctx| { guard });
> 	// here the lock is held, but the interrupts might be enabled.

Is it impossible to limit the lifetime of the guard such that it cannot
be returned from `first_lock`?

BR Andreas


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-15 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-16 21:28 [PATCH v6 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul
2024-09-16 21:28 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] rust: Introduce irq module Lyude Paul
2024-09-29 20:36   ` Trevor Gross
2024-09-29 23:45   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-02 20:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-04  8:58     ` Benno Lossin
2024-10-04 17:18       ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 18:51       ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-04 17:02     ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-10 21:00   ` Daniel Almeida
2024-09-16 21:28 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] rust: sync: Introduce lock::Backend::Context Lyude Paul
2024-09-29 20:40   ` Trevor Gross
2024-09-29 23:52   ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-16 21:28 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul
2024-09-29 20:50   ` Trevor Gross
2024-09-29 23:59   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-02 20:53   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-03 12:51     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-04 18:48     ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-05 18:19       ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-07 12:42         ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 18:13           ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-15 12:57           ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2024-10-15 20:17             ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-15 20:21               ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-16 20:57                 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 13:34                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-07 12:01       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-07 18:30         ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-08 15:21           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-12  8:01             ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-10 16:39 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Daniel Almeida
2024-10-12  5:29 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-13 19:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-13 21:43     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-16 21:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-16 21:31         ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-17 20:49           ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 22:27             ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51           ` [POC 0/6] Allow SpinLockIrq to use a normal Guard interface Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 1/6] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2024-10-21  7:04               ` kernel test robot
2024-10-21  7:35               ` kernel test robot
2024-10-21 20:44               ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-24 16:18                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-23 19:34               ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-23 19:51                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-23 20:38                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 10:05                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-24 17:22                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 21:57                         ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-25 15:04                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-25 18:28                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-24 19:12                       ` Lyude Paul
2025-07-24 20:36                   ` w/r/t "irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling": holes in pcpu_hot? Lyude Paul
2025-07-24 21:59                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24  5:05                 ` [POC 1/6] irq & spin_lock: Add counted interrupt disabling/enabling Boqun Feng
2024-10-24  8:17                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 16:20                     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 2/6] rust: Introduce interrupt module Boqun Feng
2024-10-31 20:45               ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-31 20:47                 ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 3/6] rust: helper: Add spin_{un,}lock_irq_{enable,disable}() helpers Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 4/6] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 19:23               ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-18 20:22                 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 5/6] rust: sync: Introduce lock::Backend::Context Boqun Feng
2024-10-31 20:54               ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-18  5:51             ` [POC 6/6] rust: sync: lock: Add `Backend::BackendInContext` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 10:22             ` [POC 0/6] Allow SpinLockIrq to use a normal Guard interface Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-18 12:42               ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-18 11:16             ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-18 16:05               ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-31 20:56             ` Lyude Paul
2024-10-17 20:42         ` [PATCH v6 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul

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