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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: "Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Anna-Maria Behnsen" <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Guangbo Cui" <2407018371@qq.com>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 02/14] rust: hrtimer: introduce hrtimer support
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:44:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tt8ned3e.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z7hjrzyVNd5BIcEy@pavilion.home> (Frederic Weisbecker's message of "Fri, 21 Feb 2025 12:29:51 +0100")

"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org> writes:

> Le Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 11:46:10PM +0000, Benno Lossin a écrit :
>> On 18.02.25 14:27, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> > This patch adds support for intrusive use of the hrtimer system. For now,
>> > only one timer can be embedded in a Rust struct.
>> >
>> > The hrtimer Rust API is based on the intrusive style pattern introduced by
>> > the Rust workqueue API.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
>> > ---
>> >  rust/kernel/time.rs         |   2 +
>> >  rust/kernel/time/hrtimer.rs | 312 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >  2 files changed, 314 insertions(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/time.rs b/rust/kernel/time.rs
>> > index 87e47f2f5618d..2cf365cfb412e 100644
>> > --- a/rust/kernel/time.rs
>> > +++ b/rust/kernel/time.rs
>> > @@ -10,6 +10,8 @@
>> >
>> >  use core::convert::Into;
>> >
>> > +pub mod hrtimer;
>> > +
>> >  /// The number of nanoseconds per millisecond.
>> >  pub const NSEC_PER_MSEC: i64 = bindings::NSEC_PER_MSEC as i64;
>> >
>> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/time/hrtimer.rs b/rust/kernel/time/hrtimer.rs
>> > new file mode 100644
>> > index 0000000000000..a6332924efabd
>> > --- /dev/null
>> > +++ b/rust/kernel/time/hrtimer.rs
>> > @@ -0,0 +1,312 @@
>> > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
>> > +
>> > +//! Intrusive high resolution timers.
>> > +//!
>> > +//! Allows running timer callbacks without doing allocations at the time of
>> > +//! starting the timer. For now, only one timer per type is allowed.
>> > +//!
>> > +//! # Vocabulary
>> > +//!
>> > +//! States:
>> > +//!
>> > +//! * Stopped
>> > +//! * Running
>> > +//!
>> > +//! Operations:
>> > +//!
>> > +//! * Start
>> > +//! * Cancel
>> > +//! * Stop
>> > +//! * Restart
>> > +//!
>> > +//! Events:
>> > +//!
>> > +//! * Expire
>> > +//!
>> > +//! ## State Diagram
>> > +//!
>> > +//! ```text
>> > +//!                  <-- Stop ----
>> > +//!                  <-- Cancel --
>> > +//!                  --- Start -->
>> > +//!        +---------+        +---------+
>> > +//!   O--->| Stopped |        | Running |---o
>> > +//!        +---------+        +---------+   |
>> > +//!                                  ^      |
>> > +//!                  <- Expire --    |      |
>> > +//!                                  o------o
>> > +//!                                   Restart
>> > +//! ```
>> > +//!
>> > +//! A timer is initialized in the **stopped** state. A stopped timer can be
>> > +//! **started** with an **expiry** time. After the timer is started, it is
>> > +//! **running**. When the timer **expires**, the timer handler is executed.
>> > +//! After the handler has executed, the timer may be **restarted** or
>> > +//! **stopped**. A running timer can be **canceled** before it's handler is
>>
>> This confuses me a bit, in the other thread you wrote that the handler
>> decides if the timer should restart or be stopped. But What happens when
>> I call `cancel` on the `HrTimerHandle` while the handler is running, but
>> finishes shortly after with a restart request? Will it be canceled?
>>
>> I also have a bit of a wording issue with "the timer is running" IIUC,
>> this means that the timer subsystem keeps track of the expiry time and
>> when the time is elapsed, it fires the code that you registered prior.
>> At first, I thought that "the timer is running" meant that the
>> registered code is running. Maybe we should have two different terms for
>> that? I personally would prefer "active timer" for "the timer subsystem
>> is currently tracking the time and when it is elapsed, it will run the
>> code" and "running timer" for "the timer's expiry time has elapsed and
>> the timer callback is currently being executed".
>
> Good point. "Running" in the hrtimer terminology is usually to
> describe a running callback and not just an elapsing (or say started) timer.
>
> I would rather have:
>
> Stopped: initialized but not started, or cancelled, or not restarted
> Started: initialized and started or restarted
> Running: executing the callback

Alright, we can do that. That makes sense 👍



Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-21 12:17 UTC|newest]

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2025-02-18 13:27 ` [PATCH v8 00/14] hrtimer Rust API Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 01/14] rust: time: Add Ktime::from_ns() Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-19 11:58     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-19 14:53       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 02/14] rust: hrtimer: introduce hrtimer support Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 17:04     ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-20 21:18       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 21:37         ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21  8:19           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 13:04             ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 13:17               ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 14:19                 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21  8:36           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 13:14             ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 13:28             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 14:21               ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-22 18:25                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22 18:41                   ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 14:40               ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-21 14:46                 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 15:19                   ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-21 19:46                     ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 22:37                       ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-22  1:08                         ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-22  1:38                           ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-22  9:25                     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22 11:40                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22 21:25                         ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-20 23:46     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:03       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:15         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 11:05           ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21 12:17             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22  9:37               ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-22 11:27                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21  9:05       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 11:29       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-21 11:44         ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 03/14] rust: sync: add `Arc::as_ptr` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:18     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 04/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `HrTimerPointer` for `Arc` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 05/14] rust: hrtimer: allow timer restart from timer handler Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:47     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:09       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:15         ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 06/14] rust: hrtimer: add `UnsafeHrTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:18     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 07/14] rust: hrtimer: add `hrtimer::ScopedHrTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 08/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeHrTimerPointer` for `Pin<&T>` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 09/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeHrTimerPointer` for `Pin<&mut T>` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 10/14] rust: alloc: add `Box::into_pin` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:20     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:10       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 11/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `HrTimerPointer` for `Pin<Box<T>>` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 12/14] rust: hrtimer: add `HrTimerMode` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:23     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:17       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:19         ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21 11:39           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22  9:34             ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 13/14] rust: hrtimer: add clocksource selection through `ClockSource` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:27     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:29       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:22         ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 14/14] rust: hrtimer: add maintainer entry Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-19 11:02   ` [PATCH v8 00/14] hrtimer Rust API Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 21:03     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-21  8:40       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 11:20         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-22 13:04           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-22 13:10             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-05 17:34             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-20 22:35   ` Frederic Weisbecker

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