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From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>,
	ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, wedsonaf@gmail.com,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
	a.hindborg@samsung.com, aliceryhl@google.com,
	daniel.almeida@collabora.com, faith.ekstrand@collabora.com,
	boris.brezillon@collabora.com, lina@asahilina.net,
	mcanal@igalia.com, zhiw@nvidia.com, acurrid@nvidia.com,
	cjia@nvidia.com, jhubbard@nvidia.com, airlied@redhat.com,
	ajanulgu@redhat.com, lyude@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/20] rust: types: implement `Unique<T>`
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 13:37:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8bfd9934-6227-4584-a11c-3f3c881b7fac@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72kmppYpNNjP=0eqHx60ixjgoL4oW_ux1HVwM6vrCRFztw@mail.gmail.com>

On 06.07.24 14:40, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 12:59 PM Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
>>
>> The `Unique` from std is special, in the sense that the Rust compiler
>> will emit the `noalias` LLVM attribute.
>>
>> This gives std's `Box` type a possible performance advantage (IIRC Gary
>> had a compiler explorer example that showed different instruction
>> count).
> 
> The example in question: https://godbolt.org/z/n93vePqMj -- there is
> one less memory load.
> 
> One can also easily craft examples where the compiler e.g. removes an
> entire loop: https://godbolt.org/z/c8ncbdKMe
> 
> But, of course, it depends on whether we will actually encounter these
> situations in real code, as you say. It could also be that today we
> don't find any relevant benefit, but there may exist situations later
> (perhaps because we have more code, or perhaps because codegen
> backends change).

It would be a good idea to ask the Rust folks if they could give us a
unique type that does what we need.

> From a quick look, there are still quite a few open issues about the
> exact properties of `Box` and `Unique`, including whether `Box` has a
> derefencability requirement
> (https://github.com/rust-lang/unsafe-code-guidelines/issues/145).

Yes, this is why I wasn't sure if we could do the workaround I
mentioned. My guess is that it doesn't work or that at least it isn't
supported (i.e. could change at any point).

> What properties would we want, today, from our `Box` types, if we
> could pick any? Should we have several kinds of `Box`es if there is no
> unique answer? Is it worth diverging from the standard one(s) in
> either direction (i.e. more invariants or less)?

I would expect that `Box<T>` behaves like `&mut T` except that it owns
the memory.

For starters we probably want this "normal" Box. If we get a unique
pointer type, then we can introduce more, but I don't think we need that
at the moment.

---
Cheers,
Benno


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-06 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-04 17:06 [PATCH 00/20] Generic `Allocator` support for Rust Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 01/20] rust: alloc: add `Allocator` trait Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-06 10:33   ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-06 11:05     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-06 13:17       ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-06 15:11         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-06 17:08           ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-06 18:47             ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-08  8:12               ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-08 23:12                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 02/20] rust: alloc: separate `aligned_size` from `krealloc_aligned` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 03/20] rust: alloc: rename `KernelAllocator` to `Kmalloc` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 04/20] rust: alloc: implement `Allocator` for `Kmalloc` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-06 10:37   ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-06 11:08     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 05/20] rust: alloc: add module `allocator_test` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 06/20] rust: alloc: remove `krealloc_aligned` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 07/20] rust: alloc: implement `Vmalloc` allocator Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-06 10:41   ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-06 11:13     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-06 13:21       ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-06 15:16         ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 08/20] rust: alloc: implement `KVmalloc` allocator Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 09/20] rust: types: implement `Unique<T>` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-06 10:59   ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-06 12:40     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-07-06 13:37       ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 10/20] rust: alloc: implement `KBox` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 11/20] rust: treewide: switch to `KBox` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 12/20] rust: alloc: remove `BoxExt` extension Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 13/20] rust: alloc: implement `KVec` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 14/20] rust: alloc: implement `IntoIterator` for `KVec` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 15/20] rust: alloc: implement `collect` for `IntoIter` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 23:27   ` Boqun Feng
2024-07-05  1:23     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 16/20] rust: treewide: switch to `KVec` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 17/20] rust: alloc: remove `VecExt` extension Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 18/20] rust: error: use `core::alloc::LayoutError` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 19/20] rust: str: test: replace `alloc::format` Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 20/20] kbuild: rust: remove the `alloc` crate Danilo Krummrich
2024-07-06  3:59   ` kernel test robot

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