From: Burak Emir <bqe@google.com>
To: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
"Kees Cook" <kees@kernel.org>,
"Rasmus Villemoes" <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
"Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Gustavo A . R . Silva" <gustavoars@kernel.org>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 3/5] rust: add bitmap API.
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 23:49:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACQBu=VXAPfVGxVFiW4iZWF=kd4ZdwH4xwz0YgXnoqK1UnHRkA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72k6vhzR8W72B-vqHy3rrTv+y9rYECx9bfHX=eD6TXye8A@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 11:42 PM Miguel Ojeda
<miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 10:08 PM Burak Emir <bqe@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > The "unsafe" here should serve as reminder to argue why it is ok to
> > not have any ordering guarantees.
>
> `unsafe` should be used for unsafe functions, not as a general
> "danger" or "advanced" marker.
>
> (Having such a marker could be useful, but `unsafe fn` is not it)
>
I can see the appeal of having a strict definition "safe = no UB".
> > The last sentence is supposed to say: when you have a &mut bitmap, you
> > can reborrow it as &bitmap, and then happily call this atomic op.
> > Even though it is unnecessary.
>
> I don't think that is related to safety preconditions. A "# Safety"
> section is intended to explain what the preconditions are.
>
> So, for instance, stating "The caller must ensure that this is safe"
> does not add much.
I see what you are saying. Not being sensitive to order is a
precondition to a property.
There are many different kinds of (colloquial) safety e.g. crash
safety or data integrity.
Sticking to a technical definition of safety has the advantage that
one can be consistent.
So I'll remove the unsafe marker then.
Thanks,
- Burak
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-19 21:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-19 16:17 [PATCH v8 0/5] rust: adds Bitmap API, ID pool and bindings Burak Emir
2025-05-19 16:17 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] rust: add bindings for bitmap.h Burak Emir
2025-05-19 16:17 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] rust: add bindings for bitops.h Burak Emir
2025-05-19 16:17 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] rust: add bitmap API Burak Emir
2025-05-19 18:22 ` Yury Norov
2025-05-19 20:41 ` Burak Emir
2025-05-19 20:51 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-19 22:07 ` Yury Norov
2025-05-19 19:00 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-19 20:07 ` Burak Emir
2025-05-19 20:09 ` Burak Emir
2025-05-19 20:36 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-19 20:49 ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-19 21:42 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-05-19 21:49 ` Burak Emir [this message]
2025-05-20 5:59 ` kernel test robot
2025-05-19 16:17 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] rust: add find_bit_benchmark_rust module Burak Emir
2025-05-19 17:39 ` Yury Norov
2025-05-19 18:11 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-05-19 16:17 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] rust: add dynamic ID pool abstraction for bitmap Burak Emir
2025-05-19 19:46 ` Yury Norov
2025-05-19 22:51 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-19 23:12 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-19 23:43 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-19 23:56 ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-20 0:57 ` Yury Norov
2025-05-20 3:45 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-21 3:57 ` Carlos Llamas
2025-05-21 13:50 ` Yury Norov
2025-05-26 14:22 ` Burak Emir
2025-05-20 3:46 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-20 5:21 ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-20 12:42 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-20 12:56 ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-20 13:05 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-20 13:21 ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-20 15:55 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-20 16:54 ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-20 19:43 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-19 18:34 ` [PATCH v8 0/5] rust: adds Bitmap API, ID pool and bindings Yury Norov
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