[PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[Miguel Ojeda]

Nowadays all architectures except s390 recommend using `LLVM=1` instead of
`CC=clang`, and since commit a3c6bfba4429 ("Documentation/llvm: refresh
docs") the Kbuild LLVM documentation makes `LLVM=1` the way to go:

    We want to encourage the use of ``LLVM=1`` rather than just
    ``CC=clang``. Make that suggestion "above the fold" and "front and
    center" in our docs.

In particular, that commit removes the examples with `CC=clang`.

Thus do the same in the Rust Quick Start guide, i.e. remove the `CC=clang`
mentions, especially since the architectures that have had their Rust
support upstreamed (or soon to be upstreamed) are all `LLVM=1` ones
anyway. And perhaps by the time Rust is supported for s390 (or new
architectures), it may have moved to `LLVM=1` anyway. Otherwise,
this can be added back if needed (or perhaps an extra link to
Documentation/kbuild/llvm.rst).

This should also help avoiding potential confusion around `CC=clang` [1].

Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/6df6e8e5-8d5b-4d3d-91b5-bc0e90c424ea@nvidia.com/ [1]
Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>
---
 Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst | 6 +-----
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
index f382914f4191..75faa987079a 100644
--- a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
+++ b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
@@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ libclang
 
 ``libclang`` (part of LLVM) is used by ``bindgen`` to understand the C code
 in the kernel, which means LLVM needs to be installed; like when the kernel
-is compiled with ``CC=clang`` or ``LLVM=1``.
+is compiled with ``LLVM=1``.
 
 Linux distributions are likely to have a suitable one available, so it is
 best to check that first.
@@ -229,10 +229,6 @@ at the moment. That is::
 
 	make LLVM=1
 
-For architectures that do not support a full LLVM toolchain, use::
-
-	make CC=clang
-
 Using GCC also works for some configurations, but it is very experimental at
 the moment.
 

base-commit: a39b6ac3781d46ba18193c9dbb2110f31e9bffe9
-- 
2.43.0

Re: [PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[Alice Ryhl]

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:48 PM Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Nowadays all architectures except s390 recommend using `LLVM=1` instead of
> `CC=clang`, and since commit a3c6bfba4429 ("Documentation/llvm: refresh
> docs") the Kbuild LLVM documentation makes `LLVM=1` the way to go:
>
>     We want to encourage the use of ``LLVM=1`` rather than just
>     ``CC=clang``. Make that suggestion "above the fold" and "front and
>     center" in our docs.
>
> In particular, that commit removes the examples with `CC=clang`.
>
> Thus do the same in the Rust Quick Start guide, i.e. remove the `CC=clang`
> mentions, especially since the architectures that have had their Rust
> support upstreamed (or soon to be upstreamed) are all `LLVM=1` ones
> anyway. And perhaps by the time Rust is supported for s390 (or new
> architectures), it may have moved to `LLVM=1` anyway. Otherwise,
> this can be added back if needed (or perhaps an extra link to
> Documentation/kbuild/llvm.rst).
>
> This should also help avoiding potential confusion around `CC=clang` [1].
>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/6df6e8e5-8d5b-4d3d-91b5-bc0e90c424ea@nvidia.com/ [1]
> Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>

Reviewed-by: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>

Re: [PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[Ariel Miculas]

On 23/12/15 01:47PM, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> Nowadays all architectures except s390 recommend using `LLVM=1` instead of
> `CC=clang`, and since commit a3c6bfba4429 ("Documentation/llvm: refresh
> docs") the Kbuild LLVM documentation makes `LLVM=1` the way to go:
> 
>     We want to encourage the use of ``LLVM=1`` rather than just
>     ``CC=clang``. Make that suggestion "above the fold" and "front and
>     center" in our docs.
> 
> In particular, that commit removes the examples with `CC=clang`.
> 
> Thus do the same in the Rust Quick Start guide, i.e. remove the `CC=clang`
> mentions, especially since the architectures that have had their Rust
> support upstreamed (or soon to be upstreamed) are all `LLVM=1` ones
> anyway. And perhaps by the time Rust is supported for s390 (or new
> architectures), it may have moved to `LLVM=1` anyway. Otherwise,
> this can be added back if needed (or perhaps an extra link to
> Documentation/kbuild/llvm.rst).
> 
> This should also help avoiding potential confusion around `CC=clang` [1].
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/6df6e8e5-8d5b-4d3d-91b5-bc0e90c424ea@nvidia.com/ [1]
> Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>
Reviewed-by: Ariel Miculas <amiculas@cisco.com>

Re: [PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[Martin Rodriguez Reboredo]

On 12/15/23 09:47, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> Nowadays all architectures except s390 recommend using `LLVM=1` instead of
> `CC=clang`, and since commit a3c6bfba4429 ("Documentation/llvm: refresh
> docs") the Kbuild LLVM documentation makes `LLVM=1` the way to go:
> 
>      We want to encourage the use of ``LLVM=1`` rather than just
>      ``CC=clang``. Make that suggestion "above the fold" and "front and
>      center" in our docs.
> 
> In particular, that commit removes the examples with `CC=clang`.
> 
> Thus do the same in the Rust Quick Start guide, i.e. remove the `CC=clang`
> mentions, especially since the architectures that have had their Rust
> support upstreamed (or soon to be upstreamed) are all `LLVM=1` ones
> anyway. And perhaps by the time Rust is supported for s390 (or new
> architectures), it may have moved to `LLVM=1` anyway. Otherwise,
> this can be added back if needed (or perhaps an extra link to
> Documentation/kbuild/llvm.rst).
> 
> This should also help avoiding potential confusion around `CC=clang` [1].
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/6df6e8e5-8d5b-4d3d-91b5-bc0e90c424ea@nvidia.com/ [1]
> Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>
> ---
> [...]
Reviewed-by: Martin Rodriguez Reboredo <yakoyoku@gmail.com>

Re: [PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[John Hubbard]

On 12/15/23 04:47, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> Nowadays all architectures except s390 recommend using `LLVM=1` instead of
> `CC=clang`, and since commit a3c6bfba4429 ("Documentation/llvm: refresh
> docs") the Kbuild LLVM documentation makes `LLVM=1` the way to go:
> 
>      We want to encourage the use of ``LLVM=1`` rather than just
>      ``CC=clang``. Make that suggestion "above the fold" and "front and
>      center" in our docs.
> 
> In particular, that commit removes the examples with `CC=clang`.
> 
> Thus do the same in the Rust Quick Start guide, i.e. remove the `CC=clang`
> mentions, especially since the architectures that have had their Rust
> support upstreamed (or soon to be upstreamed) are all `LLVM=1` ones
> anyway. And perhaps by the time Rust is supported for s390 (or new
> architectures), it may have moved to `LLVM=1` anyway. Otherwise,
> this can be added back if needed (or perhaps an extra link to
> Documentation/kbuild/llvm.rst).
> 
> This should also help avoiding potential confusion around `CC=clang` [1].

Yes it should. :)

Reviewed-by: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>


thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA

> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/6df6e8e5-8d5b-4d3d-91b5-bc0e90c424ea@nvidia.com/ [1]
> Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>
> ---
>   Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst | 6 +-----
>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
> index f382914f4191..75faa987079a 100644
> --- a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
> @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ libclang
>   
>   ``libclang`` (part of LLVM) is used by ``bindgen`` to understand the C code
>   in the kernel, which means LLVM needs to be installed; like when the kernel
> -is compiled with ``CC=clang`` or ``LLVM=1``.
> +is compiled with ``LLVM=1``.
>   
>   Linux distributions are likely to have a suitable one available, so it is
>   best to check that first.
> @@ -229,10 +229,6 @@ at the moment. That is::
>   
>   	make LLVM=1
>   
> -For architectures that do not support a full LLVM toolchain, use::
> -
> -	make CC=clang
> -
>   Using GCC also works for some configurations, but it is very experimental at
>   the moment.
>   
> 
> base-commit: a39b6ac3781d46ba18193c9dbb2110f31e9bffe9

Re: [PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[Justin Stitt]

Hi,

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 4:48 AM Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Nowadays all architectures except s390 recommend using `LLVM=1` instead of
> `CC=clang`, and since commit a3c6bfba4429 ("Documentation/llvm: refresh
> docs") the Kbuild LLVM documentation makes `LLVM=1` the way to go:
>
>     We want to encourage the use of ``LLVM=1`` rather than just
>     ``CC=clang``. Make that suggestion "above the fold" and "front and
>     center" in our docs.
>
> In particular, that commit removes the examples with `CC=clang`.
>
> Thus do the same in the Rust Quick Start guide, i.e. remove the `CC=clang`
> mentions, especially since the architectures that have had their Rust
> support upstreamed (or soon to be upstreamed) are all `LLVM=1` ones
> anyway. And perhaps by the time Rust is supported for s390 (or new
> architectures), it may have moved to `LLVM=1` anyway. Otherwise,
> this can be added back if needed (or perhaps an extra link to
> Documentation/kbuild/llvm.rst).
>
> This should also help avoiding potential confusion around `CC=clang` [1].
>

Yes!


> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/6df6e8e5-8d5b-4d3d-91b5-bc0e90c424ea@nvidia.com/ [1]
> Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>

Reviewed-by: Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>

> ---
>  Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst | 6 +-----
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
> index f382914f4191..75faa987079a 100644
> --- a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
> @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ libclang
>
>  ``libclang`` (part of LLVM) is used by ``bindgen`` to understand the C code
>  in the kernel, which means LLVM needs to be installed; like when the kernel
> -is compiled with ``CC=clang`` or ``LLVM=1``.
> +is compiled with ``LLVM=1``.
>
>  Linux distributions are likely to have a suitable one available, so it is
>  best to check that first.
> @@ -229,10 +229,6 @@ at the moment. That is::
>
>         make LLVM=1
>
> -For architectures that do not support a full LLVM toolchain, use::
> -
> -       make CC=clang
> -
>  Using GCC also works for some configurations, but it is very experimental at
>  the moment.
>
>
> base-commit: a39b6ac3781d46ba18193c9dbb2110f31e9bffe9
> --
> 2.43.0
>

Thanks
Justin

Re: [PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[Nathan Chancellor]

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:47:51PM +0100, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> Nowadays all architectures except s390 recommend using `LLVM=1` instead of
> `CC=clang`, and since commit a3c6bfba4429 ("Documentation/llvm: refresh
> docs") the Kbuild LLVM documentation makes `LLVM=1` the way to go:
> 
>     We want to encourage the use of ``LLVM=1`` rather than just
>     ``CC=clang``. Make that suggestion "above the fold" and "front and
>     center" in our docs.
> 
> In particular, that commit removes the examples with `CC=clang`.
> 
> Thus do the same in the Rust Quick Start guide, i.e. remove the `CC=clang`
> mentions, especially since the architectures that have had their Rust
> support upstreamed (or soon to be upstreamed) are all `LLVM=1` ones
> anyway. And perhaps by the time Rust is supported for s390 (or new
> architectures), it may have moved to `LLVM=1` anyway. Otherwise,
> this can be added back if needed (or perhaps an extra link to
> Documentation/kbuild/llvm.rst).
> 
> This should also help avoiding potential confusion around `CC=clang` [1].
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/6df6e8e5-8d5b-4d3d-91b5-bc0e90c424ea@nvidia.com/ [1]
> Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>

Yes, the fact that no architecture that CONFIG_RUST supports requires
CC=clang seems reason enough for this to be eliminated from the Rust
documentation.

Reviewed-by: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>

> ---
>  Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst | 6 +-----
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
> index f382914f4191..75faa987079a 100644
> --- a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst
> @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ libclang
>  
>  ``libclang`` (part of LLVM) is used by ``bindgen`` to understand the C code
>  in the kernel, which means LLVM needs to be installed; like when the kernel
> -is compiled with ``CC=clang`` or ``LLVM=1``.
> +is compiled with ``LLVM=1``.
>  
>  Linux distributions are likely to have a suitable one available, so it is
>  best to check that first.
> @@ -229,10 +229,6 @@ at the moment. That is::
>  
>  	make LLVM=1
>  
> -For architectures that do not support a full LLVM toolchain, use::
> -
> -	make CC=clang
> -
>  Using GCC also works for some configurations, but it is very experimental at
>  the moment.
>  
> 
> base-commit: a39b6ac3781d46ba18193c9dbb2110f31e9bffe9
> -- 
> 2.43.0
> 

Re: [PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[Benno Lossin]

On 12/15/23 13:47, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
> Nowadays all architectures except s390 recommend using `LLVM=1` instead of
> `CC=clang`, and since commit a3c6bfba4429 ("Documentation/llvm: refresh
> docs") the Kbuild LLVM documentation makes `LLVM=1` the way to go:
> 
>     We want to encourage the use of ``LLVM=1`` rather than just
>     ``CC=clang``. Make that suggestion "above the fold" and "front and
>     center" in our docs.
> 
> In particular, that commit removes the examples with `CC=clang`.
> 
> Thus do the same in the Rust Quick Start guide, i.e. remove the `CC=clang`
> mentions, especially since the architectures that have had their Rust
> support upstreamed (or soon to be upstreamed) are all `LLVM=1` ones
> anyway. And perhaps by the time Rust is supported for s390 (or new
> architectures), it may have moved to `LLVM=1` anyway. Otherwise,
> this can be added back if needed (or perhaps an extra link to
> Documentation/kbuild/llvm.rst).
> 
> This should also help avoiding potential confusion around `CC=clang` [1].
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/6df6e8e5-8d5b-4d3d-91b5-bc0e90c424ea@nvidia.com/ [1]
> Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>

Reviewed-by: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>

-- 
Cheers,
Benno

Re: [PATCH] docs: rust: remove `CC=clang` mentions

[Miguel Ojeda]

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 1:48 PM Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Nowadays all architectures except s390 recommend using `LLVM=1` instead of
> `CC=clang`, and since commit a3c6bfba4429 ("Documentation/llvm: refresh
> docs") the Kbuild LLVM documentation makes `LLVM=1` the way to go:
>
>     We want to encourage the use of ``LLVM=1`` rather than just
>     ``CC=clang``. Make that suggestion "above the fold" and "front and
>     center" in our docs.
>
> In particular, that commit removes the examples with `CC=clang`.
>
> Thus do the same in the Rust Quick Start guide, i.e. remove the `CC=clang`
> mentions, especially since the architectures that have had their Rust
> support upstreamed (or soon to be upstreamed) are all `LLVM=1` ones
> anyway. And perhaps by the time Rust is supported for s390 (or new
> architectures), it may have moved to `LLVM=1` anyway. Otherwise,
> this can be added back if needed (or perhaps an extra link to
> Documentation/kbuild/llvm.rst).
>
> This should also help avoiding potential confusion around `CC=clang` [1].
>
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/6df6e8e5-8d5b-4d3d-91b5-bc0e90c424ea@nvidia.com/ [1]
> Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>

Applied to `rust-next` -- thanks everyone!

Cheers,
Miguel