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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: implement ForeignOwnable for Pin<Box<T>>
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 19:50:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH5fLghN8L4cJsRuH-eqU4E5GaTJRUhw0cAStjHAj1RNJA-vhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5c49f604-34c1-414f-bf9a-92837c6e07b3@proton.me>

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 7:14 PM Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
>
> On 30.07.24 15:06, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > @@ -89,6 +90,32 @@ unsafe fn from_foreign(ptr: *const core::ffi::c_void) -> Self {
> >      }
> >  }
> >
> > +impl<T: 'static> ForeignOwnable for Pin<Box<T>> {
> > +    type Borrowed<'a> = Pin<&'a T>;
> > +
> > +    fn into_foreign(self) -> *const core::ffi::c_void {
> > +        // SAFETY: We are still treating the box as pinned.
>
> I don't think that we have the guarantee that the pointee at the pointer
> that is returned by `into_foreign` is not moved.

That doesn't seem like the kind of thing we need a guarantee for.
Rather, unless we give anyone a guarantee that dereferencing it is
okay, it seems reasonable to assume that it won't be dereferenced.
Right now, it's just an opaque pointer, so C really shouldn't be
touching it. We already implement the trait for Arc which is also
pinned and also doesn't even point at a value of type T.

> AFAIU `ForeignOwnable` is used to store these pointers in C structures
> and never to actually access the value behind the returned pointer. So
> we could add the requirement to `into_foreign` (thus making it `unsafe`)
> that the pointer should not be dereferenced/used aside from `borrow` and
> `from_foreign`. Otherwise I don't see how the call below can be OK.
> What do you think?

Dereferencing the void pointer is unsafe in itself, so I don't see why
`into_foreign` has to be unsafe too.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-30 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-30 13:06 [PATCH] rust: implement ForeignOwnable for Pin<Box<T>> Alice Ryhl
2024-07-30 17:14 ` Benno Lossin
2024-07-30 17:50   ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2024-07-30 18:06     ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-18 21:31 ` Miguel Ojeda

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