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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
	 "GONG, Ruiqi" <gongruiqi@huaweicloud.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	 Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	 Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	jvoisin <julien.voisin@dustri.org>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>,
	Xiu Jianfeng <xiujianfeng@huawei.com>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
	 Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Matteo Rizzo <matteorizzo@google.com>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>,
	 Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
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	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	 rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/6] mm/slab: Introduce kmem_buckets_create() and family
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 11:34:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH5fLghsZRemYUwVvhk77o6y1foqnCeDzW4WZv6ScEWna2+_jw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c45eb0c9-21b9-4e29-a9d8-f3044c77822e@suse.cz>

On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 11:17 AM Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> wrote:
>
> On 6/28/24 11:06 AM, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I took a quick look as what kmem_buckets is, and seems to me that align
> >> > doesn't make sense here (and probably not useful in Rust as well)
> >> > because a kmem_buckets is a set of kmem_caches, each has its own object
> >> > size, making them share the same alignment is probably not what you
> >> > want. But I could be missing something.
> >>
> >> How flexible do you need those alignments to be? Besides the power-of-two
> >> guarantees, we currently have only two odd sizes with 96 and 192. If those
> >> were guaranteed to be aligned 32 bytes, would that be sufficient? Also do
> >> you ever allocate anything smaller than 32 bytes then?
> >>
> >> To summarize, if Rust's requirements can be summarized by some rules and
> >> it's not completely ad-hoc per-allocation alignment requirement (or if it
> >> is, does it have an upper bound?) we could perhaps figure out the creation
> >> of rust-specific kmem_buckets to give it what's needed?
> >
> > Rust's allocator API can take any size and alignment as long as:
> >
> > 1. The alignment is a power of two.
> > 2. The size is non-zero.
> > 3. When you round up the size to the next multiple of the alignment,
> > then it must not overflow the signed type isize / ssize_t.
> >
> > What happens right now is that when Rust wants an allocation with a
> > higher alignment than ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN, then it will increase size
> > until it becomes a power of two so that the power-of-two guarantee
> > gives a properly aligned allocation.
>
> So am I correct thinking that, if the cache of size 96 bytes guaranteed a
> 32byte alignment, and 192 bytes guaranteed 64byte alignment, and the rest of
> sizes with the already guaranteed power-of-two alignment, then on rust side
> you would only have to round up sizes to the next multiples of the alignemnt
> (rule 3 above) and that would be sufficient?
>  Abstracting from the specific sizes of 96 and 192, the guarantee on kmalloc
> side would have to be - guarantee alignment to the largest power-of-two
> divisor of the size. Does that sound right?
>
> Then I think we could have some flag for kmem_buckets creation that would do
> the right thing.

If kmalloc/krealloc guarantee that an allocation is aligned according
to the largest power-of-two divisor of the size, then the Rust
allocator would definitely be simplified as we would not longer need
this part:

if layout.align() > bindings::ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN {
    // The alignment requirement exceeds the slab guarantee, thus try
to enlarge the size
    // to use the "power-of-two" size/alignment guarantee (see
comments in `kmalloc()` for
    // more information).
    //
    // Note that `layout.size()` (after padding) is guaranteed to be a
multiple of
    // `layout.align()`, so `next_power_of_two` gives enough alignment
guarantee.
    size = size.next_power_of_two();
}

We would only need to keep the part that rounds up the size to a
multiple of the alignment.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-28  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240619192131.do.115-kees@kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <20240619193357.1333772-4-kees@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <cc301463-da43-4991-b001-d92521384253@suse.cz>
     [not found]     ` <202406201147.8152CECFF@keescook>
2024-06-20 20:43       ` [PATCH v5 4/6] mm/slab: Introduce kmem_buckets_create() and family Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-28  5:35         ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-28  8:40           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-28  9:06             ` Alice Ryhl
2024-06-28  9:17               ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-06-28  9:34                 ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2024-06-28 15:47           ` Kees Cook
2024-06-28 16:53             ` Vlastimil Babka

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