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From: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
To: Tamir Duberstein <tamird@gmail.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: arc: remove unused PhantomData
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 10:26:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH5fLgjXXE32k2VuC9yGrNG7ib5vo7V+fsvRxWG0ijopK7MDCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-ks9=xW_WWZXB0CbDvU-3otkYs-TY+PSYeiPyidM58QujC3g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 9:13 PM Tamir Duberstein <tamird@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 8:29 AM Miguel Ojeda
> <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 11:42 PM Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I believe we need this `PhantomData` to inform drop chec [1] that the
> > > drop of `Arc` may result into the drop of an `ArcInner<T>`. Rust std
> > > `Arc` has the similar definition [2], you can find more information
> > > about PhantomData usage on drop checking at [3].
> >
> > Hmm... But they use `may_dangle` in their `Drop` and we don't (and we
> > have a `Drop` unlike something like `Unique`), no? Or am I confused?
> > i.e. if I understand correctly, that would have been needed in the
> > past, but not anymore.
>
> Doing a bit of archaeology I found the reasoning for the presence of
> `PhantomData` in std's `Arc`[0]. The TL;DR is that the presence of a
> type parameter `T` implies "owns T", but `Arc` owns `ArcInner<T>`
> rather than `T`. Thus in order to get correct dropck behavior it is
> necessary to opt out of "owns T" using `may_dangle` and opt into "owns
> ArcInner<T>" using `PhantomData`.
>
> Please check my understanding; I couldn't find detailed documentation
> of the interaction between `may_dangle` and `PhantomData`. If this
> sounds correct, should we add `may_dangle` to our dropck? compile-fail
> tests would be useful here.

We don't *have* to use #[may_dangle]. Using it may allow more stuff,
but it's not a problem for it to be missing. We probably don't want to
use it since it's unstable.

Since we don't use #[may_dangle], we don't *need* the PhantomData
field. Having it doesn't change anything.

Alice

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-06  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-04 21:23 [PATCH] rust: arc: remove unused PhantomData Tamir Duberstein
2024-11-04 22:42 ` Boqun Feng
2024-11-05 11:24   ` Tamir Duberstein
2024-11-05 12:29   ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-11-05 20:13     ` Tamir Duberstein
2024-11-06  9:26       ` Alice Ryhl [this message]
2024-11-06 13:44         ` Tamir Duberstein
2024-11-06 15:38           ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-11-06 16:41             ` Tamir Duberstein
2024-11-06 18:30               ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-11-06 19:08                 ` Tamir Duberstein
2024-11-07  8:49                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-11-06 15:38       ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-11-06 16:32         ` Tamir Duberstein
2024-11-06 18:19           ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-11-06 21:12             ` Tamir Duberstein
2024-11-07  7:55               ` Alice Ryhl

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