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[209.85.218.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-ab7732e7166sm133173566b.90.2025.02.06.09.58.52 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Feb 2025 09:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ej1-f42.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ab737e5674bso224284466b.1 for ; Thu, 06 Feb 2025 09:58:52 -0800 (PST) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWFrU90rVAtUGEMbQpNWNvm6D2ZDSi7ZufEA0MaBBrJcCjRaXZckUc36aW1/4IJGx3R9nMDUWqDjfW3Jja5WQ==@vger.kernel.org X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:7f0f:b0:ab6:d6c3:f1e4 with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ab75e2f2393mr881845566b.38.1738864732223; Thu, 06 Feb 2025 09:58:52 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20250128092334.GA28548@lst.de> <293df3d54bad446e8fd527f204c6dc301354e340.camel@mailbox.org> <20250130154646.GA2298732@nvidia.com> <2025013030-gummy-cosmic-7927@gregkh> <20250130172437.GN5556@nvidia.com> <2025013148-reversal-pessimism-1515@gregkh> <20250131135421.GO5556@nvidia.com> <2b9b75d1-eb8e-494a-b05f-59f75c92e6ae@marcan.st> <208e1fc3-cfc3-4a26-98c3-a48ab35bb9db@marcan.st> In-Reply-To: <208e1fc3-cfc3-4a26-98c3-a48ab35bb9db@marcan.st> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 09:58:36 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AWEUYZkS6oHFUn-g-IGnkz4FJ-irLv59VoaubaKbNOcXpu9gE5INymKIQSe6irw Message-ID: Subject: Re: On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.) To: Hector Martin Cc: Dave Airlie , Jason Gunthorpe , Greg KH , phasta@kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig , Danilo Krummrich , Miguel Ojeda , Abdiel Janulgue , daniel.almeida@collabora.com, aliceryhl@google.com, robin.murphy@arm.com, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, Miguel Ojeda , Alex Gaynor , Boqun Feng , Gary Guo , =?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Roy_Baron?= , Benno Lossin , Andreas Hindborg , Trevor Gross , Valentin Obst , open list , Marek Szyprowski , airlied@redhat.com, "open list:DMA MAPPING HELPERS" , DRI Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 at 01:19, Hector Martin wrote: > > If shaming on social media does not work, then tell me what does, > because I'm out of ideas. How about you accept the fact that maybe the problem is you. You think you know better. But the current process works. It has problems, but problems are a fact of life. There is no perfect. However, I will say that the social media brigading just makes me not want to have anything at all to do with your approach. Because if we have issues in the kernel development model, then social media sure as hell isn't the solution. The same way it sure as hell wasn't the solution to politics. Technical patches and discussions matter. Social media brigading - no than\k you. Linus