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From: Tamir Duberstein <tamird@gmail.com>
To: Zhi Wang <zhiw@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,  linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dakr@kernel.org,
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	 alex.gaynor@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com, gary@garyguo.net,
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	a.hindborg@kernel.org,  tmgross@umich.edu,
	markus.probst@posteo.de, helgaas@kernel.org,  cjia@nvidia.com,
	smitra@nvidia.com, ankita@nvidia.com, aniketa@nvidia.com,
	 kwankhede@nvidia.com, targupta@nvidia.com, acourbot@nvidia.com,
	 joelagnelf@nvidia.com, jhubbard@nvidia.com, zhiwang@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 RESEND 4/7] rust: io: factor common I/O helpers into Io trait
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 13:53:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ-ks9=8vm9Ggt2iJRr-QpTN+why5ZbNAzHYRmbDxiBXP4-b4Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251114192719.15a3c1a7.zhiw@nvidia.com>

On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 12:37 PM Zhi Wang <zhiw@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2025 12:58:31 +0000
> Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 10:41:16PM +0200, Zhi Wang wrote:
> > > The previous Io<SIZE> type combined both the generic I/O access
> > > helpers and MMIO implementation details in a single struct.
> > >
> > > To establish a cleaner layering between the I/O interface and its
> > > concrete backends, paving the way for supporting additional I/O
> > > mechanisms in the future, Io<SIZE> need to be factored.
> > >
> > > Factor the common helpers into a new Io trait, and move the
> > > MMIO-specific logic into a dedicated Mmio<SIZE> type implementing
> > > that trait. Rename the IoRaw to MmioRaw and update the bus MMIO
> > > implementations to use MmioRaw.
> > >
> > > No functional change intended.
> > >
> > > Cc: Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
> > > Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Zhi Wang <zhiw@nvidia.com>
> >
> > This defines three traits:
> >
> > * Io
> > * IoInfallible: Io
> > * IoFallible: Io
> >
> > This particular split says that there are going to be cases where we
> > implement IoInfallible only, cases where we implement IoFallible only,
> > and maybe cases where we implement both.
> >
> > And the distiction between them is whether the bounds check is runtime
> > or compile-time.
> >
> > But this doesn't make much sense to me. Surely any Io resource that
> > can provide compile-time checked io can also provide runtime-checked
> > io, so maybe IoFallible should extend IoInfallible?
> >
> > And why are these separate traits at all? Why not support both
> > compile-time and runtime-checked IO always?
> >
>
> Hi Alice:
>
> Thanks for comments. I did have a version that PCI configuration space
> only have fallible accessors because I thought the device can be
> unplugged or a VF might fail its FLR and get unresponsive, so the driver
> may need to check the return all the time. And Danilo's comments were
> let's have the infallible accessors for PCI configuration space and add
> them later if some driver needs it. [1]
>
> I am open to either options. like have both or having infallibles first
> and fallibles later.

What about using an associated Err type? In the infallible case, it
would be `core::convert::Infallible`. It would be slightly more
ergonomic if associated type defaults were stable[0], though.

[0] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/29661

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-14 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-10 20:41 [PATCH v6 RESEND 0/7] rust: pci: add config space read/write support Zhi Wang
2025-11-10 20:41 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 1/7] samples: rust: rust_driver_pci: use "kernel vertical" style for imports Zhi Wang
2025-11-10 20:41 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 2/7] rust: devres: " Zhi Wang
2025-11-10 20:41 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 3/7] rust: io: " Zhi Wang
2025-11-10 20:41 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 4/7] rust: io: factor common I/O helpers into Io trait Zhi Wang
2025-11-13  7:36   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 12:58   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-11-14 17:27     ` Zhi Wang
2025-11-14 18:53       ` Tamir Duberstein [this message]
2025-11-17 17:14         ` Zhi Wang
2025-11-14 20:31       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-11-17 22:44     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-18 21:18       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-11-18 23:43         ` John Hubbard
2025-11-10 20:41 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 5/7] rust: io: factor out MMIO read/write macros Zhi Wang
2025-11-13  7:36   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 16:06     ` Zhi Wang
2025-11-10 20:41 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 6/7] rust: pci: add config space read/write support Zhi Wang
2025-11-13  7:56   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-14 16:59     ` Zhi Wang
2025-11-14  0:20   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-17 20:28     ` Zhi Wang
2025-11-17 22:07     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-11-10 20:41 ` [PATCH v6 RESNED 7/7] sample: rust: pci: add tests for config space routines Zhi Wang
2025-11-11  0:01 ` [PATCH v6 RESEND 0/7] rust: pci: add config space read/write support Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11  8:43   ` Zhi Wang

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