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From: Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>
Cc: benno.lossin@proton.me, boqun.feng@gmail.com, tmgross@umich.edu,
	 netdev@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	andrew@lunn.ch,  greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] rust: core abstractions for network PHY drivers
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 13:59:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANiq72kC-04zFPZ0c9wc=9MGRek4QnU_7o2E-H2VJjdCf+6GFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231013.185348.94552909652217598.fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 11:53 AM FUJITA Tomonori
<fujita.tomonori@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure the general rules in Rust can be applied to linux kernel.

Benno and others already replied nicely to this, but I wanted to point
out that this happens with C compilers just the same. It is not a
"Rust thing" and what matters is what compilers do here, in practice.

For instance, you can try to compile this with GCC under -O2, and you
will get a program that returns a 2:

    int main(void) {
        _Bool b;
        char c = 42;
        memcpy(&b, &c, 1);
        if (b)
            return 43;
        return 44;
    }

Similarly, one for Rust where LLVM simply generates `ud2`:

    #[repr(u32)]
    pub enum E {
        A = 0,
        B = 1,
    }

    pub fn main() {
        let e = unsafe { core::mem::transmute::<u32, E>(5) };
        std::process::exit(match e {
            E::A => 42,
            E::B => 43,
        });
    }

The `e` variable is what we can get from C without an unsafe block if
you use `--rustified-enum`, i.e. the case in your abstractions.

The critical bit here is that, in C, it is not UB to have value 5 in
its enum, so we cannot rely on that.

Cheers,
Miguel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-14 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-09  1:39 [PATCH net-next v3 0/3] Rust abstractions for network PHY drivers FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09  1:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/3] rust: core " FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09  3:17   ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-09 12:19   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-09 13:02     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 13:56       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-09 14:13         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-11 14:16     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 12:59   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 13:49     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 14:32       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:15         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 15:19           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:11       ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:24         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 15:39           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:50             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-11  9:59               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-11 23:18                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13 11:59                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-13 15:15                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13 18:33                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-14 12:31                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14 16:19                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-12  0:29                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 21:07           ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-09 21:21             ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-11  7:04             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 13:54     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 14:48       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 17:04         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-12  3:59     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  4:43       ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-12  7:09         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-11 18:29   ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-12  5:58     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  6:34       ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-12  6:44         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  7:02           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  7:13             ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-12  7:32               ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-12  7:58                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-12  9:10                   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-13  4:17                     ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-13  5:45                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13  7:56                         ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-13  9:53                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-13 10:03                             ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-13 10:53                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-14  7:47                                 ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-14 21:55                                   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-14 22:18                                     ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-14 22:33                                       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-14  4:11                             ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-14 11:59                             ` Miguel Ojeda [this message]
2023-10-12  7:07           ` Boqun Feng
2023-10-09  1:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/3] MAINTAINERS: add Rust PHY abstractions to the ETHERNET PHY LIBRARY FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09  1:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/3] net: phy: add Rust Asix PHY driver FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09  3:22   ` Trevor Gross
2023-10-09  7:23   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-10-09 10:58     ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 11:41     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 12:32     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 14:01       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:31         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 15:27           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:35             ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 16:09               ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 10:10   ` Greg KH
2023-10-12 11:57     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2023-10-09 12:42   ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-09 13:15     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 13:45       ` Benno Lossin
2023-10-09 12:48 ` [PATCH net-next v3 0/3] Rust abstractions for network PHY drivers Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 12:53   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 13:06     ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 14:13       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:52         ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:06           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:14             ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:15               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 13:24     ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 13:36       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:21     ` Andrea Righi
2023-10-09 14:22       ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:56       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-10-09 15:04         ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:10           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 15:15             ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-09 14:56       ` Greg KH
2023-10-09 15:09         ` Andrea Righi

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