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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Boris Brezillon" <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] rust: regulator: add a bare minimum regulator abstraction
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 13:54:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DA048ETXB1Q1.3KVZ2FHENWKDL@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8517D6F0-C1A2-4E38-8E62-57DCCD5E58D4@collabora.com>

On Mon May 19, 2025 at 12:52 PM CEST, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>> I just mean the cases where users will want to enable and disable the
>> regulator more frequently than just enabling it at probe time.
>
> This is already possible through kernel::types::Either. 
>
> i.e.: the current design - or the proposed typestate one - can already switch
> back and forth between Regulator and EnabledRegulator. Using Either makes it
> just work, because you can change the variant at runtime without hassle. This
> lets you consume self in an ergonomic way.

Have you tried to write such a use-case using `Either`? My personal
experience with `Either` was pretty horrible, since you always have to
match on it before you can do anything to the values. It's not really
ergonomic.

I think we should remove it, as it also doesn't have any users at the
moment. Anyone that needs it should define a custom enum for their
use-case.

And effectively an `Either<Regulator, EnabledRegulator>` is just a
`Regulator<Switch>` in Alexandre's proposal if I understood it
correctly.

> By the way, the reason I'm pushing back slightly here is because you seem
> (IIUC) to be trying to reintroduce the pattern we had to move away from in v1.
>
> i.e.: we explicitly had to move away from trying to match enables and disables
> in Rust, because it was hard to get this right.
>
> The current design is a simplification that apparently works, because at best
> you have +1 on the count and that is encoded in the type itself, so there is
> nothing to actually "track" or "balance" within a given instance. Multiple
> calls to _get() or _enable() on the same instance are simply forbidden.
>
> Can you add some pseudocode that shows how this doesn't work (or is otherwise
> unergonomic) in Nova? I think it will make your point clearer.

+1 on actual code examples :)

---
Cheers,
Benno

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-19 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-13 15:44 [PATCH v3] rust: regulator: add a bare minimum regulator abstraction Daniel Almeida
2025-05-13 20:01 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14  7:46   ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14  9:37     ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 10:16       ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 10:31         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 11:50           ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 12:23             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 12:48               ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 14:06                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 13:01   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 13:57     ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 14:40       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 15:38         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 15:50           ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 16:05             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 16:08               ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 16:19               ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 17:41                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 16:10             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15  8:19               ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 15:48         ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14  8:27 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18  2:28 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18  7:19   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-18  8:14     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18  8:30       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18  9:57         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-18 11:12           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 14:05             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19  0:29               ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 12:20       ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 12:51         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-19  9:55           ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 14:04         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19  9:56           ` Mark Brown
2025-05-19 11:25             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 11:46               ` Mark Brown
2025-05-19 12:30                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 12:46                   ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 12:17   ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 12:49     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-19  9:54       ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 15:11   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-19  1:25     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-19 10:52       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-19 11:01         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-19 11:54         ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-05-19 11:59           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-05-19 14:43           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-20 18:09             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 14:20         ` Alexandre Courbot

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