From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Boris Brezillon" <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
"Sebastian Reichel" <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>,
"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] rust: regulator: add a bare minimum regulator abstraction
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 14:30:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DA04ZK6NFF1N.35LFZRY7O7SG8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8229a161-52b8-4265-8296-8f1ac49bab62@sirena.org.uk>
On Mon May 19, 2025 at 1:46 PM CEST, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 01:25:56PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> On Mon May 19, 2025 at 11:56 AM CEST, Mark Brown wrote:
>
>> > No. You should not leak any refcount, the per consumer refcount
>> > duplicates what's being done for the regulator as a whole, one should
>> > never be incremented or decremented without the other (but there may be
>> > multiple consumers to choose from).
>
>> What stops the last `regulator_put` to also call `regulator_disable` a
>> correct number of times?
>
> We obviously could but the regulator API defaults to not doing anything
> unless explicitly told to since getting things wrong can physically
> damage the system. We've no idea if just disabling the regulator would
> be safe at this point so we just don't touch anything and complain about
> it.
Gotcha.
>> What are the kinds of problems that one could encounter when not calling
>> `regulator_disable` before `regulator_put` or if `regulator_enable` was
>> never called to begin with?
>
> If you don't disable the regulator you've just leaked a reference which
> is obviously a problem.
For sure. But I'm trying to figure out if this is a safety-related issue
or not. Safety in Rust has a rather specific meaning that can be
summarized with "no UB". So since the C side does nothing if the user
screwed up the refcounts, it lets me to believe that we don't have any
safety related issues when forgetting to call `regulator_disable`.
Of course we still should strive for an API that makes that impossible
or at least very hard, but we don't need to make the API `unsafe` or
have to take special care. (At least if I understood correctly)
---
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-19 12:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-13 15:44 [PATCH v3] rust: regulator: add a bare minimum regulator abstraction Daniel Almeida
2025-05-13 20:01 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 7:46 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 9:37 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 10:16 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 10:31 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 11:50 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 12:23 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 12:48 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 14:06 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 13:01 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 13:57 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 14:40 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 15:38 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 15:50 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 16:05 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 16:08 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 16:19 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 17:41 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 16:10 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15 8:19 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 15:48 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 8:27 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 2:28 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 7:19 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-18 8:14 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 8:30 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 9:57 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-18 11:12 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 14:05 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 0:29 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 12:20 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 12:51 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-19 9:55 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 14:04 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 9:56 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-19 11:25 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 11:46 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-19 12:30 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-05-19 12:46 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 12:17 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 12:49 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-19 9:54 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 15:11 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-19 1:25 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-19 10:52 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-19 11:01 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-19 11:54 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 11:59 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-05-19 14:43 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-20 18:09 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 14:20 ` Alexandre Courbot
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