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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Boris Brezillon" <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	"Sebastian Reichel" <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] rust: regulator: add a bare minimum regulator abstraction
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 14:30:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DA04ZK6NFF1N.35LFZRY7O7SG8@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8229a161-52b8-4265-8296-8f1ac49bab62@sirena.org.uk>

On Mon May 19, 2025 at 1:46 PM CEST, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 01:25:56PM +0200, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> On Mon May 19, 2025 at 11:56 AM CEST, Mark Brown wrote:
>
>> > No.  You should not leak any refcount, the per consumer refcount
>> > duplicates what's being done for the regulator as a whole, one should
>> > never be incremented or decremented without the other (but there may be
>> > multiple consumers to choose from).
>
>> What stops the last `regulator_put` to also call `regulator_disable` a
>> correct number of times?
>
> We obviously could but the regulator API defaults to not doing anything
> unless explicitly told to since getting things wrong can physically
> damage the system.  We've no idea if just disabling the regulator would
> be safe at this point so we just don't touch anything and complain about
> it.

Gotcha.

>> What are the kinds of problems that one could encounter when not calling
>> `regulator_disable` before `regulator_put` or if `regulator_enable` was
>> never called to begin with?
>
> If you don't disable the regulator you've just leaked a reference which
> is obviously a problem.

For sure. But I'm trying to figure out if this is a safety-related issue
or not. Safety in Rust has a rather specific meaning that can be
summarized with "no UB". So since the C side does nothing if the user
screwed up the refcounts, it lets me to believe that we don't have any
safety related issues when forgetting to call `regulator_disable`.

Of course we still should strive for an API that makes that impossible
or at least very hard, but we don't need to make the API `unsafe` or
have to take special care. (At least if I understood correctly)

---
Cheers,
Benno

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-19 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-13 15:44 [PATCH v3] rust: regulator: add a bare minimum regulator abstraction Daniel Almeida
2025-05-13 20:01 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14  7:46   ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14  9:37     ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 10:16       ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 10:31         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 11:50           ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 12:23             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 12:48               ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 14:06                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 13:01   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 13:57     ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 14:40       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 15:38         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 15:50           ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 16:05             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 16:08               ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 16:19               ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-14 17:41                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 16:10             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-15  8:19               ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14 15:48         ` Mark Brown
2025-05-14  8:27 ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18  2:28 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18  7:19   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-18  8:14     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18  8:30       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18  9:57         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-18 11:12           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 14:05             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19  0:29               ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-18 12:20       ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 12:51         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-19  9:55           ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 14:04         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19  9:56           ` Mark Brown
2025-05-19 11:25             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 11:46               ` Mark Brown
2025-05-19 12:30                 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-05-19 12:46                   ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 12:17   ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 12:49     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-19  9:54       ` Mark Brown
2025-05-18 15:11   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-19  1:25     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-19 10:52       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-19 11:01         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-05-19 11:54         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 11:59           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-05-19 14:43           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-05-20 18:09             ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-19 14:20         ` Alexandre Courbot

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