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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] uaccess: rust: use newtype for user pointers
Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 17:38:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DA7WMFWY8I6Z.2EADXSPL111PP@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68364701.050a0220.48858.0017@mx.google.com>

On Wed May 28, 2025 at 1:13 AM CEST, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 11:12:11PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
>> On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 01:53:12PM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>> > In C code we use sparse with the __user annotation to detect cases where
>> > a user pointer is mixed up with other things. To replicate that, we
>> > introduce a new struct UserPtr that serves the same purpose using the
>> > newtype pattern.
>> > 
>> > The UserPtr type is not marked with #[derive(Debug)], which means that
>> > it's not possible to print values of this type. This avoids ASLR
>> > leakage.
>> > 
>> > The type is added to the prelude as it is a fairly fundamental type
>> > similar to c_int. The wrapping_add() method is renamed to
>> > wrapping_byte_add() for consistency with the method name found on raw
>> > pointers.
>> 
>> That's considerably weaker than __user, though - with
>> 	struct foo {struct bar x; struct baz y[2]; };
>
> Translate to Rust this is:
>
>     struct Foo {
>         x: Bar,
> 	y: Baz[2],
>     }
>
>> 	struct foo __user *p;
>
> UserPtr should probably be generic over pointee, so:
>
>     pub struct UserPtr<T>(*mut c_void, PhantomData<*mut T>);
>
> and
>
>     let p: UserPtr<Foo> = ...;
>
>> 	void f(struct bar __user *);
>
> and this is:
>
>     pub fn f(bar: UserPtr<Bar>)
>
> and the checking should work, a (maybe unrelated) tricky part though..
>
>> sparse does figure out that f(&p->y[1]) is a type error - &p->y[1] is
>
> In Rust, you will need to play a little unsafe game to get &p->y[1]:
>
>     let foo_ptr: *mut Foo = p.as_mut_ptr();
>     let y_ptr: *mut Baz = unsafe { addr_of_mut!((*foo_ptr).y[1]) };
>     let y: UserPtr<Baz> = unsafe { UserPtr::from_ptr(y_ptr) };

Shouldn't this use `wrapping_add` since the pointer shouldn't be
dereferenced?

If we don't use `wrapping_add`, then the field projection operation for
this type must be `unsafe`.

---
Cheers,
Benno

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-28 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-27 13:53 [PATCH v2] uaccess: rust: use newtype for user pointers Alice Ryhl
2025-05-27 14:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-27 15:20 ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-27 15:22   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-27 19:03 ` Christian Schrefl
2025-05-27 19:09   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-27 22:12 ` Al Viro
2025-05-27 23:13   ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-28 10:48     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-28 15:38     ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-05-28 16:02       ` Boqun Feng
2025-05-28 10:47   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-28 17:45     ` Al Viro
2025-05-28 20:01       ` Al Viro
2025-05-28 20:35       ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-28 10:52 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-28 16:55 ` Benno Lossin

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