From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Matthew Maurer" <mmaurer@google.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 4/6] rust: debugfs: Support arbitrary owned backing for File
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:35:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB2GKFUREH3U.15ME8JB2HJOQN@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGZ3q0PEmZ7lV4I-@pollux>
On Thu Jul 3, 2025 at 2:29 PM CEST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 01:41:53PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> Yes, we need to be able to have a debugfs file callback handle a mutable
>> structure in order to lock things correctly. We also need to have it be
>> mutable so that it can MODIFY the value (everyone seems to forget that
>> debugfs allows that...)
>
> Well, that's possible with both approaches. Data behind a lock becomes mutable
> once you grabbed the lock. That's the same in both cases.
>
> The difference is that with the pin-init approach I propose you can't have what
> Alice sketched up. And I think it's even desirable that you can't do it.
>
> Let's me explain the difference on a simplified example, based on Alice'
> example.
>
> ForeignOwnable API
> ------------------
>
> #[pin_data]
> struct Process {
> task: ARef<Task>,
> #[pin]
> inner: SpinLock<ProcessInner>,
> }
>
> pub(crate) struct ProcessInner {
> threads: RBTree<i32, Arc<Thread>>,
> max_threads: u32,
> }
>
> Here we have to create an Arc<Process> (let's call it process) and create files
> from it.
>
> let file_threads = dir.create_file("threads", process);
> let file_max_threads = dir.create_file("max_threads", process);
>
> In the file system callback of both of these, we now have an Arc<Process>, hence
> we can access:
>
> let guard = process.inner.lock();
>
> read_or_write(guard.max_threads);
>
> and in the other file:
>
> let guard = process.inner.lock();
>
> read_or_write(guard.max_threads);
Where do you actually specify this callback? At the moment, the API asks
for `Display` and thus it can only read values?
---
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-03 13:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-27 23:18 [PATCH v8 0/6] rust: DebugFS Bindings Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] rust: debugfs: Bind DebugFS directory creation Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] rust: debugfs: Bind file creation for long-lived Display Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] rust: types: Support &'static and &'static mut ForeignOwnable Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 11:41 ` Dirk Behme
2025-07-01 11:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] rust: debugfs: Support arbitrary owned backing for File Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 17:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 17:34 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 17:36 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 17:39 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 17:49 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 18:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 13:58 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-01 14:13 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 14:21 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-01 15:10 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 18:11 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 19:21 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 19:46 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 19:58 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 20:03 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 20:09 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 20:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 21:53 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 22:26 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 20:07 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 10:02 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-03 10:33 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 10:54 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-03 11:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-03 12:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 12:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-03 14:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 13:34 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 14:04 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 13:35 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-07-03 13:38 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-03 12:34 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 12:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-03 11:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] rust: debugfs: Support format hooks Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] rust: samples: Add debugfs sample Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 14:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-01 17:24 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 17:34 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 18:32 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 19:40 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 10:57 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] rust: DebugFS Bindings Alice Ryhl
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