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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Matthew Maurer" <mmaurer@google.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 4/6] rust: debugfs: Support arbitrary owned backing for File
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 15:35:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB2GKFUREH3U.15ME8JB2HJOQN@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aGZ3q0PEmZ7lV4I-@pollux>

On Thu Jul 3, 2025 at 2:29 PM CEST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 01:41:53PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> Yes, we need to be able to have a debugfs file callback handle a mutable
>> structure in order to lock things correctly.  We also need to have it be
>> mutable so that it can MODIFY the value (everyone seems to forget that
>> debugfs allows that...)
>
> Well, that's possible with both approaches. Data behind a lock becomes mutable
> once you grabbed the lock. That's the same in both cases.
>
> The difference is that with the pin-init approach I propose you can't have what
> Alice sketched up. And I think it's even desirable that you can't do it.
>
> Let's me explain the difference on a simplified example, based on Alice'
> example.
>
> ForeignOwnable API
> ------------------
>
> 	#[pin_data]
> 	struct Process {
> 	    task: ARef<Task>,
> 	    #[pin]
> 	    inner: SpinLock<ProcessInner>,
> 	}
> 	
> 	pub(crate) struct ProcessInner {
> 	    threads: RBTree<i32, Arc<Thread>>,
> 	    max_threads: u32,
> 	}
>
> Here we have to create an Arc<Process> (let's call it process) and create files
> from it.
>
> 	let file_threads = dir.create_file("threads", process);
> 	let file_max_threads = dir.create_file("max_threads", process);
>
> In the file system callback of both of these, we now have an Arc<Process>, hence
> we can access:
>
> 	let guard = process.inner.lock();
>
> 	read_or_write(guard.max_threads);
>
> and in the other file:
>
> 	let guard = process.inner.lock();
>
> 	read_or_write(guard.max_threads);

Where do you actually specify this callback? At the moment, the API asks
for `Display` and thus it can only read values?

---
Cheers,
Benno

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-03 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-27 23:18 [PATCH v8 0/6] rust: DebugFS Bindings Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] rust: debugfs: Bind DebugFS directory creation Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] rust: debugfs: Bind file creation for long-lived Display Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] rust: types: Support &'static and &'static mut ForeignOwnable Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 11:41   ` Dirk Behme
2025-07-01 11:46     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] rust: debugfs: Support arbitrary owned backing for File Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 17:29   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 17:34     ` Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 17:36       ` Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 17:39       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 17:49         ` Matthew Maurer
2025-06-30 18:16           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 13:58             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-01 14:13               ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 14:21                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-01 15:10                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 18:11                     ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 19:21                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 19:46                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 19:58                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 20:03                             ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 20:09                               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 20:16                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 21:53                                   ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 22:26                                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 20:07                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 10:02                     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-03 10:33                       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 10:54                         ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-03 11:41                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-03 12:29                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 12:50                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-03 14:00                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 13:34                               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 14:04                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-03 13:35                               ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-07-03 13:38                                 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-03 12:34                             ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-03 12:45                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-03 11:00                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] rust: debugfs: Support format hooks Matthew Maurer
2025-06-27 23:18 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] rust: samples: Add debugfs sample Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 14:03   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-01 17:24     ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 17:34       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 18:32         ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-01 19:40           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-01 10:57 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] rust: DebugFS Bindings Alice Ryhl

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