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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Matthew Maurer" <mmaurer@google.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/5] rust: DebugFS Bindings
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2025 23:59:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB7V19QE6KFB.3MR0BAOWXT7M7@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGSQo01hORWAtrGaYp-_xxrAiN47JkJg=jiqnqdpw87QKzt9jg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed Jul 9, 2025 at 11:53 PM CEST, Matthew Maurer wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 2:47 PM Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed Jul 9, 2025 at 9:09 PM CEST, Matthew Maurer wrote:
>> > This series provides safe DebugFS bindings for Rust, with a sample
>> > module using them.
>> >
>> > Example interaction with the sample driver:
>>
>> I understand what you're trying to do here, i.e. showcase that values exported
>> via debugfs can be altered.
>>
>> The problem is that the current abstractions only implement read(), but not
>> write().
>
> I was trying to keep the initial bindings simple. Adding `write` is
> definitely something we could do, but I thought maybe that could be in
> a subsequent patch.

Absolutely, yes! I didn't mean to ask to add it now. :)

>> If you really want to showcase changing values, you can, for instance, create a
>> workqueue inside the sample driver and modify the counter periodically.
>
> This is supposed to be sample code, so ideally it should be as narrow
> as is reasonable in what subsystems it touches, no? If people would
> really prefer the sample schedule a ticking counter I can do that, but
> it already felt weird to be registering a platform driver in a debugfs
> sample.

I'm not asking to do that. If the values don't change for now, because
there's no write() yet, that's perfectly fine with me. :)

>>
>> We really should not teach people to modify values by read() instead of write().
>> Also, without this workaround there shouldn't be a reason to export the exact
>> same value twice, i.e. no need for File<File<AtomicUsize>>.
>>
>> - Danilo
>
> How do you feel about the `Wrapper` struct, intended to simulate the
> driver doing its actual job and show how that would look? Is that
> similarly verboten, even though there's a comment on it saying this
> isn't how one should do things?

Yeah, let's not do that -- don't give people ideas. :)

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-09 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-09 19:09 [PATCH v9 0/5] rust: DebugFS Bindings Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] rust: debugfs: Bind DebugFS directory creation Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] rust: debugfs: Bind file creation for long-lived Display Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] rust: debugfs: Support `PinInit` backing for `File`s Matthew Maurer
2025-08-19  5:51   ` Dirk Behme
2025-08-19 14:33     ` Matthew Maurer
2025-08-19 14:47       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-19 23:22         ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] rust: debugfs: Support format hooks Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] rust: samples: Add debugfs sample Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 21:56   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-09 23:35     ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 21:47 ` [PATCH v9 0/5] rust: DebugFS Bindings Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-09 21:53   ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 21:59     ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-07-09 22:04       ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 22:12         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-09 22:21           ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 22:33             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-10  5:27           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-10  9:36             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-10 11:09               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 11:11                 ` Benno Lossin

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