From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Matthew Maurer" <mmaurer@google.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/5] rust: DebugFS Bindings
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2025 23:59:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB7V19QE6KFB.3MR0BAOWXT7M7@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGSQo01hORWAtrGaYp-_xxrAiN47JkJg=jiqnqdpw87QKzt9jg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed Jul 9, 2025 at 11:53 PM CEST, Matthew Maurer wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 2:47 PM Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed Jul 9, 2025 at 9:09 PM CEST, Matthew Maurer wrote:
>> > This series provides safe DebugFS bindings for Rust, with a sample
>> > module using them.
>> >
>> > Example interaction with the sample driver:
>>
>> I understand what you're trying to do here, i.e. showcase that values exported
>> via debugfs can be altered.
>>
>> The problem is that the current abstractions only implement read(), but not
>> write().
>
> I was trying to keep the initial bindings simple. Adding `write` is
> definitely something we could do, but I thought maybe that could be in
> a subsequent patch.
Absolutely, yes! I didn't mean to ask to add it now. :)
>> If you really want to showcase changing values, you can, for instance, create a
>> workqueue inside the sample driver and modify the counter periodically.
>
> This is supposed to be sample code, so ideally it should be as narrow
> as is reasonable in what subsystems it touches, no? If people would
> really prefer the sample schedule a ticking counter I can do that, but
> it already felt weird to be registering a platform driver in a debugfs
> sample.
I'm not asking to do that. If the values don't change for now, because
there's no write() yet, that's perfectly fine with me. :)
>>
>> We really should not teach people to modify values by read() instead of write().
>> Also, without this workaround there shouldn't be a reason to export the exact
>> same value twice, i.e. no need for File<File<AtomicUsize>>.
>>
>> - Danilo
>
> How do you feel about the `Wrapper` struct, intended to simulate the
> driver doing its actual job and show how that would look? Is that
> similarly verboten, even though there's a comment on it saying this
> isn't how one should do things?
Yeah, let's not do that -- don't give people ideas. :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-09 21:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-09 19:09 [PATCH v9 0/5] rust: DebugFS Bindings Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 1/5] rust: debugfs: Bind DebugFS directory creation Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 2/5] rust: debugfs: Bind file creation for long-lived Display Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 3/5] rust: debugfs: Support `PinInit` backing for `File`s Matthew Maurer
2025-08-19 5:51 ` Dirk Behme
2025-08-19 14:33 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-08-19 14:47 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-19 23:22 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 4/5] rust: debugfs: Support format hooks Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 19:09 ` [PATCH v9 5/5] rust: samples: Add debugfs sample Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 21:56 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-09 23:35 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 21:47 ` [PATCH v9 0/5] rust: DebugFS Bindings Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-09 21:53 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 21:59 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-07-09 22:04 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 22:12 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-09 22:21 ` Matthew Maurer
2025-07-09 22:33 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-10 5:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-07-10 9:36 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-10 11:09 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-10 11:11 ` Benno Lossin
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