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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	<alex.gaynor@gmail.com>, <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	<gary@garyguo.net>, <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	<lossin@kernel.org>, <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	<aliceryhl@google.com>, <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	<abdiel.janulgue@gmail.com>, <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	<jgg@ziepe.ca>, <lyude@redhat.com>, <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	<rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] rust: scatterlist: Add abstraction for sg_table
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 21:13:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DCCLKO6HTCM8.YR8VE8PAXQTM@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6625A8C0-33B2-4AFC-984B-130F8E06113D@collabora.com>

On Tue Aug 26, 2025 at 7:40 PM CEST, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>> On 25 Aug 2025, at 10:24, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
>> +// SAFETY: `SGEntry` can be accessed concurrently.
>> +unsafe impl Sync for SGEntry {}
>
> IMHO all safety comments for Sync must mention how it’s ok to send &T to
> another thread for a given T.

When we say "`T` can be accessed concurrently." it means that it is valid for
multiple &T to be accessed concurrently from different tasks.

I.e. what we care about in this case is interior mutability, where we can have
three cases:

  (1) There is no interior mutability, hence the type is Sync.

  (2) There is interior mutability, but there's also internal mechanisms taking
      care of data races, hence the type is Sync.

  (3) There is interior mutability and nothing prevents data races, hence the
      type is not Sync.

I feel like only case (2) really needs justification, because it needs to
explain how those "internal mechanisms" work.

Those abstractions do not have any interior mutability, hence I think what we
have is enough. Does that make sense?

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-26 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-25 13:24 [PATCH v3 0/5] Rust infrastructure for sg_table and scatterlist Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-25 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] rust: dma: implement DataDirection Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-26 17:10   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-25 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] rust: dma: add type alias for bindings::dma_addr_t Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-26 17:15   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-26 17:33     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-26 19:58       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-25 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] rust: scatterlist: Add abstraction for sg_table Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-26 14:16   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-08-26 14:32     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-26 17:41       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-26 14:36   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-26 15:18     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-26 17:45       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-26 23:38       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-27  8:30       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-26 17:40   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-26 19:13     ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-08-26 20:16       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-26 20:27         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-25 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] samples: rust: dma: add sample code for SGTable Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-26 14:38   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-08-26 17:46   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-25 13:24 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] MAINTAINERS: rust: dma: add scatterlist files Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-28 10:19   ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-26 21:01 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Rust infrastructure for sg_table and scatterlist Lyude Paul

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