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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: "Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Fiona Behrens" <me@kloenk.dev>, "Alban Kurti" <kurti@invicto.ai>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczy´nski" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: pin-init: add references to previously initialized fields
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2025 00:51:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DCMXPGXDXHYT.D9VJ5QBMAVPN@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DCMW6H0VJ9AP.1XWI1RI9YWO9H@kernel.org>

On Sun Sep 7, 2025 at 11:39 PM CEST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Sun Sep 7, 2025 at 11:06 PM CEST, Benno Lossin wrote:
>> On Sun Sep 7, 2025 at 7:29 PM CEST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> I have some ideas of changing the syntax to be more closure-esque:
>>
>>     init!(|this| -> Result<MyStruct, Error> {
>>         let x = 42;
>>         MyStruct {
>>             x,
>>         }
>>     })
>>
>> There we could add another parameter, that would then serve this
>> purpose. We should also probably rename `this` to `slot` & then use
>> `this` for the initialized version.
>
> I think that's a pretty good idea, but the part that I think is a little bit
> confusing remains: `this` will need to have different fields depending on where
> it's accessed.

Yeah (that's also the main issue with the macro implementation).

>> But as I said before, implementing the `this` thing from a macro
>> perspective is rather difficult (I have two ideas on how to do it and
>> both are bad...).
>>
>>> But as you say, that sounds tricky to implement and is probably not very
>>> intuitive either. I'd rather say keep it as it is, if we don't want something
>>> like the `let b <- b` syntax I proposed for formatting reasons.
>>
>> I don't feel like that's conveying the correct thing, it looks as if you
>> are only declaring a local variable.
>
> Yeah, it's not great, but given that it's a custom syntax it also does not
> create wrong expectations I'd say.

I'd say it looks like combining the `<-` operation already used by the
`init!` macro & a `let` binding. Thus introducing a local variable
that's (pin) initialized in-place. Not a field of the current struct.

> Anyways, I'm fine with either. For now we probably want to land the version as
> it is and revisit once you settle on the syntax rework you mentioned above.

I actually came up with a third option that looks best IMO:

    init!(MyStruct {
        x: 42,
        #[with_binding]
        y: 24,
        z: *y,
    })

The `#[with_binding]` attribute makes the macro generate a variable `y`.
`x` & `z` don't give access to their value. (we of course should come up
with a better name).

Any thoughts?

---
Cheers,
Benno

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-07 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-05 14:00 [PATCH] rust: pin-init: add references to previously initialized fields Benno Lossin
2025-09-05 17:18 ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-05 17:44   ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-06 10:52     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-07  1:57       ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-07  2:07         ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-07  8:41           ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-07 17:29             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-07 21:06               ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-07 21:39                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-07 22:51                   ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-09-07 23:33                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-08  2:08                       ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-08  8:27                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-08  8:57                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-08 19:38                             ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-08 20:31                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-10 10:12                               ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-05 17:21 ` Boqun Feng
2025-09-05 18:38   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-06 14:23 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-11 21:35 ` Benno Lossin

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