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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/12] gpu: nova-core: move GSP boot code to a dedicated method
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 21:17:37 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DCPYQNZG1OJK.2EE4JWJAROK57@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1755470-587b-4a43-8171-3d031b7fb4f4@kernel.org>

On Thu Sep 11, 2025 at 8:22 PM JST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On 9/11/25 1:04 PM, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> +    /// Attempt to start the GSP.
>> +    ///
>> +    /// This is a GPU-dependent and complex procedure that involves loading firmware files from
>> +    /// user-space, patching them with signatures, and building firmware-specific intricate data
>> +    /// structures that the GSP will use at runtime.
>> +    ///
>> +    /// Upon return, the GSP is up and running, and its runtime object given as return value.
>> +    pub(crate) fn start_gsp(
>> +        pdev: &pci::Device<device::Bound>,
>> +        bar: &Bar0,
>> +        chipset: Chipset,
>> +        gsp_falcon: &Falcon<Gsp>,
>> +        _sec2_falcon: &Falcon<Sec2>,
>> +    ) -> Result<()> {> +        let dev = pdev.as_ref();
>> +
>> +        let bios = Vbios::new(dev, bar)?;
>> +
>> +        let fb_layout = FbLayout::new(chipset, bar)?;
>> +        dev_dbg!(dev, "{:#x?}\n", fb_layout);
>> +
>> +        Self::run_fwsec_frts(dev, gsp_falcon, bar, &bios, &fb_layout)?;
>> +
>> +        // Return an empty placeholder for now, to be replaced with the GSP runtime data.
>> +        Ok(())
>> +    }
>
> I'd rather create the Gsp structure already, move the code to Gsp::new() and
> return an impl PinInit<Self, Error>. If you don't want to store any of the
> object instances you create above yet, you can just stuff all the code into an
> initializer code block, as you do in the next patch with
> gfw::wait_gfw_boot_completion().

I don't think that would work, or be any better even if it did. The full
GSP initialization is pretty complex and all we need to return is one
object created at the beginning that doesn't need to be pinned.
Moreover, the process is also dependent on the GPU family and completely
different on Hopper/Blackwell.

You can see the whole process on [1]. `libos` is the object that is
returned (although its name and type will change). All the rest it
loading, preparing and running firmware, and that is done on the GPU. I
think it would be very out of place in the GSP module.

It is also very step-by-step: run this firmware, wait for it to
complete, run another one, wait for a specific message from the GSP, run
the sequencer, etc. And most of this stuff is thrown away once the GSP
is running. That's where the limits of what we can do with `pin_init!`
are reached, and the GSP object doesn't need to be pinned anyway.

By keeping the initialization in the GPU, we can keep the GSP object
architecture-independent, and I think it makes sense from a design point
of view. That's not to say this code should be in `gpu.rs`, maybe we
want to move it to a GPU HAL, or if we really want this as part of the
GSP a `gsp/boot` module supporting all the different archs. But I'd
prefer to think about this when we start supporting several
architectures.

[1] https://github.com/Gnurou/linux/blob/gsp_init_rebase/drivers/gpu/nova-core/gpu.rs#L305

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-11 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-11 11:04 [PATCH v5 00/12] gpu: nova-core: process and prepare more firmwares to boot GSP Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] gpu: nova-core: require `Send` on `FalconEngine` and `FalconHal` Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] gpu: nova-core: move GSP boot code to a dedicated method Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:22   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-11 12:17     ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
2025-09-11 12:46       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-11 13:26         ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 14:22           ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-13  1:02           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-09-13 13:30             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-13 17:13               ` Joel Fernandes
2025-09-13 19:53                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-13 23:02                   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-09-14  7:58                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-13 20:37                 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-09-13 21:16                   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-09-13 21:29                   ` John Hubbard
2025-09-13 22:06                     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-09-14  1:49                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-14 14:42                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-15  4:59                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-15  6:44                             ` Benno Lossin
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] gpu: nova-core: initialize Gpu structure fully in-place Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] gpu: nova-core: add Chipset::name() method Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] gpu: nova-core: firmware: move firmware request code into a function Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:23   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-11 12:18     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] gpu: nova-core: firmware: add support for common firmware header Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] gpu: nova-core: firmware: process Booter and patch its signature Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] gpu: nova-core: firmware: process and prepare the GSP firmware Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:27   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-11 12:29     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 12:31       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] gpu: nova-core: firmware: process the GSP bootloader Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] gpu: nova-core: firmware: use 570.144 firmware Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] gpu: nova-core: Add base files for r570.144 firmware bindings Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:04 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] gpu: nova-core: compute layout of more framebuffer regions required for GSP Alexandre Courbot
2025-09-11 11:28 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] gpu: nova-core: process and prepare more firmwares to boot GSP Danilo Krummrich

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