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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Zhi Wang" <zhiw@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	"Surath Mitra" <smitra@nvidia.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
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	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] rust: pci: expose is_virtfn() and reject VFs in nova-core
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2025 01:55:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DD7E4902SAFP.3JLTVDIKKCRWS@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a7bd8285-922e-446f-9b43-a67fff67a505@nvidia.com>

On Thu Oct 2, 2025 at 1:51 AM CEST, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 10/1/25 4:47 PM, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>>> On Oct 1, 2025, at 7:00 PM, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/1/25 3:52 PM, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>>>> On Thu Oct 2, 2025 at 12:38 AM CEST, John Hubbard wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/25 6:52 AM, Zhi Wang wrote:
>>>>>> On 1.10.2025 13.32, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed Oct 1, 2025 at 3:22 AM CEST, John Hubbard wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/30/25 5:29 PM, Alistair Popple wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-10-01 at 08:07 +1000, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com> wrote...
>>>>> ...
>> Here is my opinion and correct me if I missed something:
>> 
>> It feels premature to remove the option of nova-core binding to a VF, since other options to disable auto probing do exist as Jason pointed out.
>> 
>> Taking a parallel with VFIO pass through for instance, the user already has to do some diligence like preventing drivers from binding and then making vfio-pci bind to the device IDs. This case is similar though slightly different, but VFIO setup requires some configuration anyway so will it really improve anything?
>> 
>> I quietly suggest holding on till there is a real need or we are sure nova cannot bind to, or operate on a VF. This 
>
> I'm confident that nova-core cannot properly handle a VF with *today's* code.
> There is no expectation at all for a VF to show up--yet.
>
> Which is why I think it's appropriate to skip it right now.

I agree with John.

If a driver does not support a certain device, it is not the user's
responsibility to prevent probing. Currently nova-core does not support VFs, so
it should never get probed for them in the first place.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-01 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-30 22:07 [PATCH 0/2] rust: pci: expose is_virtfn() and reject VFs in nova-core John Hubbard
2025-09-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] rust: pci: add is_virtfn(), to check for VFs John Hubbard
2025-10-01  0:30   ` Alistair Popple
2025-09-30 22:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] gpu: nova-core: reject binding to SR-IOV Virtual Functions John Hubbard
2025-10-01  0:33   ` Alistair Popple
2025-10-01  1:26     ` John Hubbard
2025-10-01  0:26 ` [PATCH 0/2] rust: pci: expose is_virtfn() and reject VFs in nova-core Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-01  1:26   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-01  1:39     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-01  1:45       ` John Hubbard
2025-10-01  8:09         ` Zhi Wang
2025-10-01 14:48           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-01 21:13             ` Zhi Wang
2025-10-02  1:43               ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-10-02  1:50                 ` John Hubbard
2025-10-02 11:58               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 12:59                 ` Zhi Wang
2025-10-02 13:42                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 14:29                     ` Zhi Wang
2025-10-02 14:31                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-07  6:51                         ` Zhi Wang
2025-10-07 10:14                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-07 11:00                             ` Zhi Wang
2025-10-07 11:26                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-01 14:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-01 18:16       ` Alex Williamson
2025-10-01 18:30         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-01 22:35           ` John Hubbard
2025-10-02  7:41   ` Zhi Wang
2025-10-01  0:29 ` Alistair Popple
2025-10-01  1:22   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-01 10:32     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-01 13:52       ` Zhi Wang
2025-10-01 22:38         ` John Hubbard
2025-10-01 22:52           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-01 23:00             ` John Hubbard
2025-10-01 23:47               ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-01 23:51                 ` John Hubbard
2025-10-01 23:55                   ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-10-02  0:48                     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-10-02  0:54                       ` John Hubbard
2025-10-02 12:05                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 12:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 12:08               ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 12:32                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 12:41                   ` Danilo Krummrich

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