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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
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	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: pci: skip probing VFs if driver doesn't support VFs
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2025 14:18:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DD7TWUPD83M9.5IO0VX7PP1UK@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251002121110.GE3195801@nvidia.com>

On Thu Oct 2, 2025 at 2:11 PM CEST, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 07:00:09PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
>> Add a "supports_vf" flag to struct pci_driver to let drivers declare
>> Virtual Function (VF) support. If a driver does not support VFs, then
>> the PCI driver core will not probe() any VFs for that driver's devices.
>> 
>> On the Rust side, add a const "SUPPORTS_VF" Driver trait, defaulting to
>> false: drivers must explicitly opt into VF support.
>
> As I said in the other thread - please no.
>
> Linux drivers are expected to run on their VFs.

The consequence would be that drivers for HW that can export VFs would need to
be rejected upstream if they only support the PF, but no VFs. IMHO, that's an
unreasonable requirement.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that it'd be great if all drivers would (be able to)
support the corresponding VFs.

But in practice that's not always the case, so I'd rather have a common way to
let drivers assert what they support over going back to the "old model" of
probing drivers, where we just rely on probe() to fail.

> This temporary
> weirdness of novacore should not be elevated to a core behavior that
> people will misuse.

It's not just nova-core, please see [1].

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/DD7TP31FEE92.2E0AKAHUOHVVF@kernel.org/

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-02 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-02  2:00 [PATCH v2 0/2] rust: pci: don't probe() VFs in nova-core John Hubbard
2025-10-02  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: pci: skip probing VFs if driver doesn't support VFs John Hubbard
2025-10-02 11:49   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 12:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 12:18     ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-10-02 12:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 13:03         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 13:56           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 15:11             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 15:23               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 16:05                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 17:05                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 17:37                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 17:40                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 17:49                         ` John Hubbard
2025-10-02 18:05                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 18:09                             ` John Hubbard
2025-10-02 18:32                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 18:17                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 18:31                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 18:42                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 18:56                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 19:36                                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 21:04                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 21:14                                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 21:32                                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02 23:40                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-03  0:57                                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-03 11:52                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 17:56                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-02 18:55                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-10-02  2:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] gpu: nova-core: declare that VFs are not (yet) supported John Hubbard

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