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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Abdiel Janulgue" <abdiel.janulgue@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust/dma: Take &mut self in CoherentAllocation::field_write()
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 22:46:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DDUA9WI1KASO.ECSJNA3RRQEI@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251028211801.85215-1-lyude@redhat.com>

On Tue Oct 28, 2025 at 10:18 PM CET, Lyude Paul wrote:
> At the moment - CoherentAllocation::field_write() only takes an immutable
> reference to self. This means it's possible for a user to mistakenly call
> field_write() while Rust still has a slice taken out for the coherent
> allocation:
>
>   let alloc: CoherentAllocation<CoolStruct> = /* … */;
>
>   let evil_slice = unsafe { alloc.as_slice(/* … */)? };
>   dma_write!(alloc[1].cool_field = 42); /* UB! */
>
> Keep in mind: the above example is technically a violation of the safety
> contract of as_slice(), so luckily this detail shouldn't currently be
> causing any UB in the kernel. But, there's no reason we should be solely
> relying on the safety contract for enforcing this when we can just use a
> mutable reference and already do so in other parts of the API.

While I generally agree with this, the catch is that it would also enforce that
you would need a lock for calling dma_write!() in a concurrent context.

I.e. if your CoherentAllocation is shared between tasks we can currently have
the tasks calling dma_write!() and dma_read!() concurrently without requiring a
lock for the CoherentAllocation.

Requiring a spinlock for such a case wouldn't be the end of the world of course,
but it would still be unnecessary.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-28 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-28 21:18 [PATCH] rust/dma: Take &mut self in CoherentAllocation::field_write() Lyude Paul
2025-10-28 21:46 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-10-28 21:52 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-10-28 22:02   ` John Hubbard
2025-10-30 18:06 ` kernel test robot

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