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From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Gomez" <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] rust: xarray: add `contains_index` method
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2026 17:04:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DFK801ZCI1GD.34GWJ10JZBBBF@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-ks9neiwxL6WhK1i0qPtZCGjfEFsXA6J-yVHKmZcwZ8RS06A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri Jan 9, 2026 at 3:59 PM GMT, Tamir Duberstein wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026 at 5:38 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> "Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2026 at 4:38 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Tamir Duberstein <tamird@gmail.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 1:34 PM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tamir Duberstein <tamird@gmail.com> writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 5:27 PM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Add a convenience method `contains_index` to check whether an element
>> >> >> >> exists at a given index in the XArray. This method provides a more
>> >> >> >> ergonomic API compared to calling `get` and checking for `Some`.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It isn't clear when you'd want this API, and neither this nor the
>> >> >> > example are particularly motivating.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I added this when I had a line reading `if xa.get(index).is_none()
>> >> >> {...}`. I think it reads better as `if !xa.contains_index(index) {...}`.
>> >> >
>> >> > What was the code surrounding it?
>> >> >
>> >> >> Do you have an idea of how to improve the motivational factor of the
>> >> >> example? Writing motivating examples is not my top skill.
>> >> >
>> >> > IMO writing a better example is not the issue; rather it would be good
>> >> > to understand why you need it. In my experience `Option::is_none` is a
>> >> > smell, but hard to say without seeing the surrounding code.
>> >>
>> >>     fn get_cache_page(&mut self, sector: u64) -> Result<&mut NullBlockPage> {
>> >>         let index = Self::to_index(sector);
>> >>
>> >>         if self.cache_guard.contains_index(index) {
>> >>             Ok(self.cache_guard.get_mut(index).expect("Index is present"))
>> >>         } else {
>> >>             let page = if self.disk_storage.cache_size_used.load(ordering::Relaxed)
>> >>                 < self.disk_storage.cache_size
>> >>             {
>> >>                 self.hw_data_guard
>> >>                     .page
>> >>                     .take()
>> >>                     .expect("Expected to have a page available")
>> >>             } else {
>> >>                 self.extract_cache_page()?
>> >>             };
>> >>             Ok(self
>> >>                 .cache_guard
>> >>                 .insert_entry(index, page, Some(&mut self.hw_data_guard.preload))
>> >>                 .expect("Should be able to insert")
>> >>                 .into_mut())
>> >>         }
>> >>     }
>> >>
>> >> For lifetime reasons, I cannot borrow `self` in the taken arm.
>> >
>> > That's surprising. Couldn't you destructure Self so that all the
>> > references derive from the single mutable reference &mut self?
>>
>> I don't think so, because I still need `&mut self` around to do the call
>> to `extract_cache_page`.
>
> Hmm, I must have missed it before, but can't this all be fixed with an
> early return?
>
>          if let Some(page) = self.cache_guard.get_mut(index) {
>              return Ok(page);
>          }

The returned lifetime needs to be same as the lifetime of `&mut self` (let's
call it `'self`). This would mean that `get_mut` would also need to borrow it
for `'self` (mutably), so it cannot be borrowed again, mutably or otherwise,
later in the function. This is a classical category of borrowck false positives
that only Polonoius can address, not the current generation of borrow checker.

Best,
Gary


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-09 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-03 22:26 [PATCH 00/10] rust: xarray: add entry API with preloading Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 01/10] rust: xarray: minor formatting fixes Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-29 15:56   ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-12-29 15:58     ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-21 15:45   ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 02/10] rust: xarray: add debug format for `StoreError` Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-29 15:58   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-21 15:46   ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 03/10] rust: xarray: add `contains_index` method Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-29 15:59   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-07 18:34     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-07 18:38       ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-08  9:29         ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-08 11:05           ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-09 10:38             ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-09 15:59               ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-09 17:04                 ` Gary Guo [this message]
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 04/10] rust: xarray: add `XArrayState` Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-29 16:04   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-07 18:48     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-08 14:22       ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 05/10] rust: xarray: use `xas_load` instead of `xa_load` in `Guard::load` Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-29 16:06   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-07 19:19     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-07 20:06       ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-08  9:30         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 06/10] rust: xarray: simplify `Guard::load` Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-29 16:07   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-07 19:25     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-07 20:08       ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-08  9:38         ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-08 11:07           ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-09 16:57             ` Gary Guo
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 07/10] rust: xarray: add `find_next` and `find_next_mut` Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-29 16:11   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-07 19:29     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 08/10] rust: xarray: add entry API Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-29 16:25   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-08  9:25     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-08 11:03       ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-01-09 10:36         ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-09 16:00           ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 09/10] rust: xarray: add preload API Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-21 15:56   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-21 19:09     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-03 22:26 ` [PATCH 10/10] rust: xarray: fix false positive lockdep warnings Andreas Hindborg
2025-12-29 16:29   ` Tamir Duberstein
2026-02-06 14:22     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-21 15:59   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-21 19:01     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-21 19:10       ` Gary Guo
2026-01-21 20:17         ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-01-22  9:20   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-06 14:21     ` Andreas Hindborg

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