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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>, "Edwin Peer" <epeer@nvidia.com>,
	"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	"Steven Price" <steven.price@arm.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/7] rust: io: add `register!` macro
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2026 17:44:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DG22Q420ISG8.169OONC5IKK7I@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DG222YZ4WT33.21A5GG66K9X5O@garyguo.net>

On Fri Jan 30, 2026 at 5:14 PM CET, Gary Guo wrote:
> On Fri Jan 30, 2026 at 6:55 AM GMT, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> No, I'm starting to believe that the fundamental issue is that the
>> register interface does its I/O backwards, and that design issue is only
>> exacerbated by the recent I/O redesign. I.e. instead of doing
>>
>>   regs::NV_PMC_BOOT_0::read(bar);
>>
>> We should really do
>>
>>   bar.read_reg::<regs::NV_PMC_BOOT_0>();
>>
>> Because that way we can use deref coercion.
>>
>> That's quite a big redesign though, which means I don't believe
>> `register!` can make it this cycle... I'll give it a try though.
>
> Hmm, that's unfortunate, but I think this is indeed a big design change that we
> should iron out before merging...
>
> I think you're right that if we put the methods on `Io` then all of the deref
> issue would just went away.

I already discussed this with Alex offline and I think we should not take this
direction just because of the Deref issue, as we can easily overcome this with
using AsRef (or a custom trait).

Whereas the downside of bar.read_reg() is that you end up with a more
inconsistent and complicated API for drivers.

For instance, with the API as is you can do things like:

	register!(NV_PFALCON_FALCON_ENGINE @ PFalconBase[0x000003c0] {
	    0:0     reset as bool;
	});
	
	impl NV_PFALCON_FALCON_ENGINE {
	    pub(crate) fn reset_engine<E: FalconEngine>(bar: &Bar0) {
	        Self::update(bar, &E::ID, |r| r.set_reset(true));
	
	        // TIMEOUT: falcon engine should not take more than 10us to reset.
	        time::delay::fsleep(time::Delta::from_micros(10));
	
	        Self::update(bar, &E::ID, |r| r.set_reset(false));
	    }
	}

and then use this from the driver code like this:

	impl<E: FalconEngine> FalconHal<E> for Tu102<E> {
	    fn do_stuff(&self, bar: &Bar0) {
	        //...
	
	        regs::NV_PFALCON_FALCON_ENGINE::reset_engine::<E>(bar);

	        //...
	    }
	}

Having to implement AsRef (or a custom trait) for the corresponding I/O backend
implementations is a pretty minor inconvinience compared to the simplicity the
current API provides to drivers.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-30 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-28  2:37 [PATCH v4 0/7] rust: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28  2:37 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] rust: enable the `generic_arg_infer` feature Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28  2:37 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] rust: num: add `shr` and `shl` methods to `Bounded` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 15:38   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-28  2:37 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] rust: num: add `as_bool` method to `Bounded<_, 1>` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28  2:37 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] rust: num: add `into_inner` method to `Bounded` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 15:43   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-29  8:05     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-29 20:23       ` Gary Guo
2026-01-30  0:58         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28  2:37 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] rust: io: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28  3:02   ` John Hubbard
2026-01-28  3:47     ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-28  7:42       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 17:56         ` Joel Fernandes
2026-01-29 11:59           ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 16:16   ` Gary Guo
2026-01-29  8:00     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-29 14:10       ` Gary Guo
2026-01-29 21:08         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30  6:55         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-30 16:14           ` Gary Guo
2026-01-30 16:44             ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-01-30 17:01               ` Gary Guo
2026-01-30 17:18                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29 12:48     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28  2:37 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] sample: rust: pci: use " Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 12:35   ` Zhi Wang
2026-01-28 13:27     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28 15:46       ` Gary Guo
2026-01-29  8:01         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-31  1:06   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28  2:37 ` [PATCH FOR REFERENCE v4 7/7] gpu: nova-core: use the kernel " Alexandre Courbot
2026-01-28  2:57   ` John Hubbard

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