From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "Fabian Grünbichler" <debian@fabian.gruenbichler.email>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Christian Schrrefl" <chrisi.schrefl@gmail.com>,
"Russell King" <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: "Rudraksha Gupta" <guptarud@gmail.com>,
"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>,
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
<rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: arm `rustdoc` Rust 1.85.0-only build error
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2026 13:48:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DHJJ59GIJ16B.2TSQW73T2JWAL@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d47bcff5-ae97-4a27-8348-efef67ed3d98@app.fastmail.com>
On Fri Apr 3, 2026 at 9:12 AM BST, Fabian Grünbichler wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2026, at 9:00 PM, Miguel Ojeda wrote:
>> Hi Christian, Russell, arm, Fabian,
>>
>> For Rust 1.85.0, for arm32, for the `rustdoc` target (i.e. all those
>> combined), I am seeing:
>>
>> RUSTDOC
>> .../1.85.0-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/lib/rustlib/src/rust/library/core/src/lib.rs
>> error: target feature `fp-armv8` cannot be toggled with
>> `#[target_feature]`: Rust ties `fp-armv8` to `neon`
>> -->
>> .../1.85.0-x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/lib/rustlib/src/rust/library/core/src/../../stdarch/crates/core_arch/src/arm_shared/neon/generated.rs:7538:48
>> |
>> 7538 | #[cfg_attr(target_arch = "arm", target_feature(enable =
>> "fp-armv8,v8"))]
>> |
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> The issue is [1], was introduced in Rust 1.85.0 and was fixed already in
>> Rust 1.85.1 [2]:
>>
>> Link: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/137366 [1]
>> Link: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/137632 [2]
>>
>> It is unfortunate since our minimum is going to be 1.85.0 since that is
>> what Debian Stable has (even if patches may be on top) -- I generally
>> test the latest patch versions for each minor, but I noticed this since
>> I also test the actual minimum, and I am bumping it to 1.85.0.
>>
>> To be clear, it is likely almost no one actually cares about this, since
>> nobody complained yet, and this can easily be fixed using the already
>> released Rust 1.85.1.
>>
>> By the way, what is Debian's policy on upstream Rust patch versions?
>
> In unstable, we pull them in usually by virtue of lagging behind a bit anyway.
>
> In stable there is no policy per se - both importing a new smallish important
> upstream release, or cherry-picking patches are options in general. A few
> packages with clear upstream LTS policies are updated often (systemd, glibc,
> the kernel itself, firefox-esr and chromium would be the most popular
> examples). If there is no upstream stable release series that matches Debian
> stable policies, the usual approach is to do a targeted backport of just the
> fixes.
> lack of rustc LTS, usually there are no point releases for the version to be
> included in Debian stable anyway.
>
> It's up to the stable release managers how big of a delta is acceptable.
>
> I will check how the full diff for 1.85.1 looks like compared to just picking
> the rustdoc fix referenced above, and then file a stable update request. AFAIU
> either option works for you?
You can check diff here:
https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/compare/1.85.0...1.85.1
The change is not much, there is a library change although that's for Windows
only. The compiler and rustdoc changes are usually pretty harmless to backport.
I guess for Debian you cared about binary compatibility; in which case you
probably want to keep the compiler version number at 1.85.0, so the compiler
verison hash stays unchanged.
Best,
Gary
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-03 12:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-31 19:00 arm `rustdoc` Rust 1.85.0-only build error Miguel Ojeda
2026-04-03 8:12 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2026-04-03 10:19 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-04-03 12:48 ` Gary Guo [this message]
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