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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: "Gary Guo" <gary@kernel.org>, "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, driver-core@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] rust: io: generalize `Mmio` to arbitrary type
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2026 13:00:06 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DHLRSIFTH8NK.1IIMX3HZS47G5@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DHLLV6ER6L2T.JF2CXDXSFJX7@garyguo.net>

On Mon Apr 6, 2026 at 8:21 AM JST, Gary Guo wrote:
> On Sun Apr 5, 2026 at 3:55 PM BST, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> On Tue Mar 24, 2026 at 12:37 AM JST, Gary Guo wrote:
>>> From: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
>>>
>>> Currently, `io::Mmio` always represent an untyped region of a compile-time
>>> known minimum size, which is roughly equivalent to `void __iomem*` (but
>>> with bound checks). However, it is useful to also be to represent I/O
>>> memory of a specific type, e.g. `u32 __iomem*` or `struct foo __iomem*`.
>>>
>>> Thus, make `Mmio` generic on arbitrary `T`, where `T` is a sized type, or a
>>> DST that implements `KnownSize`. Similar to the `MmioRaw` change, the
>>> existing behaviour is preserved in the form of `Mmio<Region<SIZE>>`. This
>>> change brings the MMIO closer to the DMA coherent allocation types that we
>>> have, which is already typed.
>>
>> You probably noticed, but the regular `read8`, `read16` remain available
>> irrespective of the `T` parameter, allowing the `Mmio` to be accessed
>> using both the structured type and arbitrary primitives with an offset.
>> I cannot find a reason to label this as unsound, but it might be
>> confusing as it makes projection an additional capability on top of the
>> existing raw I/O methods. This might be worth mentioning in the
>> documentation, or maybe the primitive accessors should only be made
>> available to `Io<Region>`?
>
> Perhaps I could add a new `UntypedIo` trait which is implemented on
> `Region`? And I can restrict these methods to be only usable for it.
>
> I would actually prefer to just remove them, and say you should either access
> via projections, or via register macro.

I am pretty sure there would still be users for more C-like accessors
over an `Region` - although we should discourage their use, removing
them entirely seems a bit drastic to me.

How about an extension trait of `Io` for when `Io::Type` is a region?
This makes the feature unavailable unless the trait is explicitly
imported - just the right level of friction imho.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-06  4:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2026-03-23 15:37 ` [PATCH 0/8] I/O type generalization and projection Gary Guo
2026-03-23 15:37   ` [PATCH 1/8] rust: io: generalize `MmioRaw` to pointer to arbitrary type Gary Guo
2026-03-26 12:53     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-26 14:31       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-23 15:37   ` [PATCH 2/8] rust: io: generalize `Mmio` " Gary Guo
2026-03-26 13:04     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-26 14:32       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-26 18:23         ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-04-02 12:57           ` Gary Guo
2026-04-04 18:57     ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-04-05 14:55     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-05 23:21       ` Gary Guo
2026-04-06  4:00         ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
2026-03-23 15:37   ` [PATCH 3/8] rust: io: use pointer types instead of address Gary Guo
2026-03-26 14:20     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-26 14:35       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-27 10:11         ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-04-05 14:56     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-05 15:00       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-04-06  3:49         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-23 15:37   ` [PATCH 4/8] rust: io: add view type Gary Guo
2026-03-26 14:31     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-04-02 13:01       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-23 15:37   ` [PATCH 5/8] rust: dma: add methods to unsafely create reference from subview Gary Guo
2026-03-26 14:37     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-26 14:44       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-23 15:37   ` [PATCH 6/8] rust: io: add `read_val` and `write_val` function on I/O view Gary Guo
2026-03-27  8:21     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-27 12:19       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-23 15:37   ` [PATCH 7/8] gpu: nova-core: use I/O projection for cleaner encapsulation Gary Guo
2026-03-23 15:38   ` [PATCH 8/8] rust: dma: drop `dma_read!` and `dma_write!` API Gary Guo
2026-03-27  8:25     ` Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-25 11:11   ` [PATCH 0/8] I/O type generalization and projection Andreas Hindborg
2026-03-25 11:19     ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-04-05 15:01   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-04-05 23:17     ` Gary Guo

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