From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] gpu: nova-core: fix wrong use of barriers in GSP code
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 12:13:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DHRZE1B9D8M8.3G97DOTB881RR@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DHRS5I7ZTI01.27WY0OTHA7ZMQ@nvidia.com>
On Mon Apr 13, 2026 at 6:33 AM BST, Eliot Courtney wrote:
> On Fri Apr 3, 2026 at 12:24 AM JST, Gary Guo wrote:
>> From: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
>>
>> Currently, in the GSP->CPU messaging path, the current code misses a read
>> barrier before data read. The barrier after read is updated to a DMA
>> barrier (with release ordering desired), instead of the existing (Rust)
>> SeqCst SMP barrier; the location of barrier is also moved to the beginning
>> of function, because the barrier is needed to synchronizing between data
>> and ring-buffer pointer, the RMW operation does not internally need a
>> barrier (nor it has to be atomic, as CPU pointers are updated by CPU only).
>>
>> In the CPU->GSP messaging path, the current code misses a write barrier
>> after data write and before updating the CPU write pointer. Barrier is not
>> needed before data write due to control dependency, this fact is documented
>> explicitly. This could be replaced with an acquire barrier if needed.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
>
> nit: should this have
> Fixes: 75f6b1de8133 ("gpu: nova-core: gsp: Add GSP command queue bindings and handling")
>
> ?
>
>> ---
>> drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/cmdq.rs | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
>> drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/fw.rs | 12 ------------
>> 2 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/cmdq.rs b/drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/cmdq.rs
>> index 2224896ccc89..7e4315b13984 100644
>> --- a/drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/cmdq.rs
>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/cmdq.rs
>> @@ -19,6 +19,12 @@
>> prelude::*,
>> sync::{
>> aref::ARef,
>> + barrier::{
>> + dma_mb,
>> + Read,
>> + Release,
>> + Write, //
>> + },
>> Mutex, //
>> },
>> time::Delta,
>> @@ -258,6 +264,9 @@ fn new(dev: &device::Device<device::Bound>) -> Result<Self> {
>> let tx = self.cpu_write_ptr() as usize;
>> let rx = self.gsp_read_ptr() as usize;
>>
>> + // ORDERING: control dependency provides necessary LOAD->STORE ordering.
>> + // `dma_mb(Acquire)` may be used here if we don't want to rely on control dependency.
>> +
>> // SAFETY:
>> // - We will only access the driver-owned part of the shared memory.
>> // - Per the safety statement of the function, no concurrent access will be performed.
>> @@ -311,6 +320,9 @@ fn driver_write_area_size(&self) -> usize {
>> let tx = self.gsp_write_ptr() as usize;
>> let rx = self.cpu_read_ptr() as usize;
>>
>> + // ORDERING: Ensure data load is ordered after load of GSP write pointer.
>> + dma_mb(Read);
>> +
>> // SAFETY:
>> // - We will only access the driver-owned part of the shared memory.
>> // - Per the safety statement of the function, no concurrent access will be performed.
>> @@ -408,6 +420,10 @@ fn cpu_read_ptr(&self) -> u32 {
>>
>> // Informs the GSP that it can send `elem_count` new pages into the message queue.
>> fn advance_cpu_read_ptr(&mut self, elem_count: u32) {
>> + // ORDERING: Ensure read pointer is properly ordered.
>
> What about a more specific comment that describes exactly what is
> ordered, e.g. something like:
> Ensure all reads of message data by the CPU have completed before writing
> the updated read pointer to the GSP, since it may overwrite that data.
>
> Maybe this is just me but it's a lot easier for me to think of the
> orderings as a pair of (load? store? -> load? store?) which works for
> everything hw actually supports except for ll+ls+ss, rather than mapping
> 'Release' to (load+store -> store) in my head. e.g. here IIUC we need to
> make sure all loads by the CPU are done before we do the store for the
> pointer, so we need to make sure loads don't cross ahead of this
> barrier but also that stores don't cross behind it, so (load -> store)
> should be sufficient? So, depending on what you want to do with the
> memory model, this could be tightened IMO. Unlike the one below that
> only needs to order stores with eachother (ss).
The pair of `(access, access)` is actually the first iteration of the API that I've designed.
You can see it implemented here: https://github.com/nbdd0121/lkmm-rs/blob/trunk/src/lib.rs
A good thing is that it maps nicely to loongarch and RISC-V. A bad thing is that
it misses ll+ls+ss as you pointed out.
However, I think the more tricky part of this approach is now the semantics is
harder to fit into LKMM; it is now became 9 types of barrier that we need to
reason about, and that's a huge addition. I am not sure it is even feasible to
implement, given the KCSAN only have 5 types of barriers that it could encode
about.
On the other hand, acquire/barriers are much easier to reason about (and they
already exist in C11/Rust memory models), and KCSAN already implements marked
release accesses as ONCE + release barrier (with acquire accesses being
implicit), so it probably doesn't even need changing.
Best,
Gary
>
>> + //
>
> nit: stray //
>
>> + dma_mb(Release);
>> +
>> super::fw::gsp_mem::advance_cpu_read_ptr(&self.0, elem_count)
>> }
>>
>> @@ -422,6 +438,9 @@ fn cpu_write_ptr(&self) -> u32 {
>>
>> // Informs the GSP that it can process `elem_count` new pages from the command queue.
>> fn advance_cpu_write_ptr(&mut self, elem_count: u32) {
>> + // ORDERING: Ensure all command data is visible before updateing ring buffer pointer.
>> + dma_mb(Write);
>> +
>> super::fw::gsp_mem::advance_cpu_write_ptr(&self.0, elem_count)
>> }
>> }
>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/fw.rs b/drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/fw.rs
>> index 0c8a74f0e8ac..62c2cf1b030c 100644
>> --- a/drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/fw.rs
>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/nova-core/gsp/fw.rs
>> @@ -42,11 +42,6 @@
>>
>> // TODO: Replace with `IoView` projections once available.
>> pub(super) mod gsp_mem {
>> - use core::sync::atomic::{
>> - fence,
>> - Ordering, //
>> - };
>> -
>> use kernel::{
>> dma::Coherent,
>> dma_read,
>> @@ -72,10 +67,6 @@ pub(in crate::gsp) fn cpu_read_ptr(qs: &Coherent<GspMem>) -> u32 {
>>
>> pub(in crate::gsp) fn advance_cpu_read_ptr(qs: &Coherent<GspMem>, count: u32) {
>> let rptr = cpu_read_ptr(qs).wrapping_add(count) % MSGQ_NUM_PAGES;
>> -
>> - // Ensure read pointer is properly ordered.
>> - fence(Ordering::SeqCst);
>> -
>> dma_write!(qs, .cpuq.rx.0.readPtr, rptr);
>> }
>>
>> @@ -87,9 +78,6 @@ pub(in crate::gsp) fn advance_cpu_write_ptr(qs: &Coherent<GspMem>, count: u32) {
>> let wptr = cpu_write_ptr(qs).wrapping_add(count) % MSGQ_NUM_PAGES;
>>
>> dma_write!(qs, .cpuq.tx.0.writePtr, wptr);
>> -
>> - // Ensure all command data is visible before triggering the GSP read.
>> - fence(Ordering::SeqCst);
>> }
>> }
>>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-13 11:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-02 15:24 [PATCH 0/3] rust: more memory barriers bindings Gary Guo
2026-04-02 15:24 ` [PATCH 1/3] rust: sync: add helpers for mb, dma_mb and friends Gary Guo
2026-04-13 5:33 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-04-02 15:24 ` [PATCH 2/3] rust: sync: generic memory barriers Gary Guo
2026-04-02 21:49 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-03 0:07 ` Gary Guo
2026-04-03 21:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-04 12:43 ` Gary Guo
2026-04-06 18:01 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-02 15:24 ` [PATCH 3/3] gpu: nova-core: fix wrong use of barriers in GSP code Gary Guo
2026-04-02 21:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-02 21:59 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-04 13:02 ` Gary Guo
2026-04-06 18:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-04-13 5:33 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-04-13 11:13 ` Gary Guo [this message]
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