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I was told on the github for sashiko that I should probably bring > this issue up here. (source: > https://github.com/sashiko-dev/sashiko/pull/112 ) > > I sent two patch series to the rust-for-linux mailing list last night, > and was a bit surprised to see that all of a sudden I am getting > Sashiko emails on my patches without having asked for them. Which > brings me to say - I really think this is a tool that needs to remain > opt-in. Or at the very least it needs an opt-out that at least silences > it trying to respond to a specific person's patches both directly and > via the mailing list. > > I'm going to keep it short because I am really trying to avoid this > turning into a conversation about how I could benefit from these tools, > how useful people think they are for themselves, etc. I personally > don't find myself being more productive with these tools, primarily > because of the significant number of false-positives and the overhead > involved in filtering those by hand. I'm concerned that if these tools > are suddenly allowed to respond to people's patches publicly on the > mailing list, that it moves the responsibility for validating its > output away from the person using the tool, to the person submitting > the work - regardless of whether it's helping them fix real issues. > > Keep in mind, I do want to be clear I think this is different from when > people use these tools on their own and bring that feedback up on the > mailing list. In that case you've taken the responsibility to actually > verify the validity (or at least the likely validity) of the issues the > AI pointed out. I certainly would have no issue with that and > appreciate the issue being brought up. I know a number of my coworkers > do this, and I've honestly not had any issues with it. > > That's all, I'd love if this was opt-in - and not enabled for the > entire mailing list. Thank you. I agree that this kind of tool should be opt-in. Maybe we can make it such as Sachiko reviews are only sent to the author of a patch if they also Cc'd some sachiko@ address that acts as an opt-in? Sachiko can still do reviews and post them on its web interface even without it, but the author would not be explicitly notified in that case.