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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Markus Probst" <markus.probst@posteo.de>
Cc: "Markus Probst via B4 Relay"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 3/5] rust: add basic serial device bus abstractions
Date: Sat, 30 May 2026 18:14:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DIW587AGXYCS.39MR1B4TVSO9@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <25dc9a4bbde0b542abf608be1b3305f1421a4502.camel@posteo.de>

On Sat May 30, 2026 at 4:51 PM CEST, Markus Probst wrote:
> On Sat, 2026-05-30 at 16:35 +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On Sat May 30, 2026 at 4:27 PM CEST, Markus Probst wrote:
>> > This would work, but I don't see how it would get rid of rust_private_data in
>> > this way. The device private data will but the private bus abstraction data
>> > needs to outlive the devres callbacks (which is done by rust_private_data).
>> 
>> Why? You only ever use it in the receive callback, which won't be called after
>> device unbind anymore.
> Because the possibility exists that some classdev ops or Drop calls
> e.g. sdev.set_baudrate. This is a null pointer dereference after
> serdev_device_close has been called. I interpreted it to add a state to
> the abstraction private data which would prevent those calls (early
> return with error) after serdev_device_close has been called, but this
> would only work if it outlives these calls.
>
> But it seems you were refering to something else with the state?

Yes, but I just notice that I'm a step ahead. With the lifetime model class
device registrations shouldn't be guarded with Devres anymore, but with a
lifetime.

(This also entirely eliminates the need for having different devres stages to
prevent drivers from smuggling a newly created Devres object into an existing
Devres<Registration<T>>'s data, which would be unsound for obvious reasons.)

With this there is no way there are still class device callbacks after the bus
device private data has been dropped in the first place.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-30 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-30  1:13 [PATCH v8 0/5] rust: add basic serial device bus abstractions Markus Probst via B4 Relay
2026-05-30  1:13 ` [PATCH v8 1/5] rust: devres: return reference in `devres::register` Markus Probst via B4 Relay
2026-05-30 11:54   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-30 17:37     ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30  1:13 ` [PATCH v8 2/5] serdev: add rust private data to serdev_device Markus Probst via B4 Relay
2026-05-30  1:13 ` [PATCH v8 3/5] rust: add basic serial device bus abstractions Markus Probst via B4 Relay
2026-05-30 13:10   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-30 13:37     ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30 13:53       ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30 14:00         ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30 14:08           ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-30 14:27             ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30 14:35               ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-30 14:51                 ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30 16:14                   ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-05-30 16:23                     ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30 16:27                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-30 16:30                         ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30 18:55                     ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30 19:45                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-30 20:31                         ` Markus Probst
2026-05-30 20:59                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-05-30  1:13 ` [PATCH v8 4/5] samples: rust: add Rust serial device bus sample device driver Markus Probst via B4 Relay
2026-05-30  1:13 ` [PATCH v8 5/5] MAINTAINERS: serdev: Add self for serdev Markus Probst via B4 Relay

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