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From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>, "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: "Heiko Carstens" <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Niklas Schnelle" <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Gerd Bayer" <gbayer@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Vasily Gorbik" <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Alexander Gordeev" <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	driver-core@lists.linux.dev,
	"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Sven Schnelle" <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@kernel.org>,
	"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Onur Özkan" <work@onurozkan.dev>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: `io{re,un}map()` build error in s390 under `!CONFIG_HAS_IOMEM`
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2026 13:26:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DKG5PF85ZIXM.258B3U2PN3P8Z@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f0e0c069-23eb-443a-800d-267cfe4c2aa2@app.fastmail.com>

On Tue Aug 4, 2026 at 1:02 PM BST, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2026, at 13:10, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
>> On Tue Aug 4, 2026 at 12:36 PM CEST, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2026, at 09:13, Heiko Carstens wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just sent out a fix [1]; the only annoying part is [2], but we should change
>>>>> those doc-tests anyway. For the one in rust/kernel/io.rs we already did in
>>>>> driver-core-next.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/driver-core/20260803200249.3494259-1-dakr@kernel.org/
>>>
>>> This looks like you still provide the rust version of ioremap(),
>>> turning what is supposed to be a link failure into a runtime
>>> error.
>>
>> Which is the standard for many core APIs, such as [1]. However, I do agree that
>> in this case the correct fix would be to have all architectures provide the
>> stubs rather than the Rust code.
>
> We have both types of interfaces in the kernel. For HAS_IOMEM and HAS_IOPORT,
> the link failure is intentional, as it helps identify drivers that need
> a Kconfig dependency and are either unusable or potentially harmful if loaded
> without this.
>
> Having empty stubs only really makes sense for things like LED support
> where a driver calling the interfaces can continue to work
> correctly when the interface is compile-time disabled.

We can still have link failures if we always provide the signatures, just don't
provide implementation?

Best,
Gary

>
>> However, there's already a precedent for this in the kernel, e.g. in [2]. Of
>> course, it would be better to clean this up, but depending on whether there's
>> more architectures having this issue (I didn't check) that's separate from a
>> fix.
>
> arch/um is the only other one that does not always enable HAS_IOMEM,
> though most m68k targets don't have any support for ISA/PCI style
> MMIO or PIO and probably should not enable it in theory.
>
>> [2] 
>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v7.1.5/source/include/linux/device/devres.h#L115
>
> Right, we are definitely already inconsistent here.
>
>>> The simple change below would just extend that behavior to !PCI
>>> and make that consistent with CONFIG_PCI=y on machines without
>>> actual PCI hardware. Of course any code that might rely on this
>>> is now a bug that likely never gets caught at build time.
>>>
>>> This still relies on implementing the __raw_* helpers as nop
>>> to have the same behavior as the PCI=y version, as the generic
>>> version would just end up dereferencing the invalid pointers.
>>
>> As mentioned, I didn't check, but if this is the only architecture causing those
>> issues that'd be the better fix of course.
>>
>> However, IIUC, your patch below would make ioremap() and friends silenty succeed
>> and only the accessors would prevent undefined behavior?
>>
>> In this case I still think ioremap() should just fail.
>
> In that case, it would make sense to also change the CONFIG_PCI=y
> version to fail the same way when the address points outside of
> the PCI memory space range. The current version in
> arch/s390/pci/pci.c just falls back to generic_ioremap_prot(),
> which is what I would use here directly:
>
> void __iomem *ioremap_prot(phys_addr_t phys_addr, size_t size,
>                            pgprot_t prot)
> {
>         if (!static_branch_unlikely(&have_mio))
>                 return (void __iomem *)phys_addr;
>         return generic_ioremap_prot(phys_addr, size, prot);
> }
>
> The two methods here (generic_ioremap_prot() and the cast)
> are machine specific to refer to two different ways that PCI
> devices can be accessed if present, but there is no case
> for PCI being unavailable altogether.
>
>        Arnd



  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-04 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-03 18:09 `io{re,un}map()` build error in s390 under `!CONFIG_HAS_IOMEM` Miguel Ojeda
2026-08-03 19:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-08-03 20:09   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-04  7:13     ` Heiko Carstens
2026-08-04 10:36       ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-08-04 11:10         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-04 12:02           ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-08-04 12:26             ` Gary Guo [this message]
2026-08-05 15:08             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-08-04 12:21         ` Niklas Schnelle
2026-08-04 15:52           ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-08-05 15:36             ` Niklas Schnelle
2026-08-05 15:56               ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-08-06 13:25                 ` Niklas Schnelle
2026-08-06 13:44                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-08-06 15:21                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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